Can large scale warfare be abolished in the next 100 years?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of abolishing war and violence by eliminating religion and nationalism, redistributing the world's wealth evenly, and finding alternative means of settling disputes. However, it is also acknowledged that greed, ego, fear, and lack of understanding are underlying causes of war and may never completely disappear. The conversation also delves into the role of ideology and poverty in perpetuating violence, as well as the potential for technological advancements to change the nature of warfare. Overall, the conversation highlights the complex and multi-faceted nature of war and the challenges in finding a solution.

Can war be abolished in the next 100 Years?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 57.9%
  • No

    Votes: 8 42.1%

  • Total voters
    19
  • Poll closed .
  • #36
Temporarily Blah said:
First of all, in order to stop war, you need to be absolutely sure what causes it.

Here's a small list:

Religion
Politics
Race
Morales
Greed

Those are the 5 major ones, tell me if there are more, and think of ways that those could be removed. Genetic behavioral modification would anger people who have some morales, and would also start "genetic-sism".
---watch "Serenity," don't want any reavers!


These are not causes, these are merely created structures thru which humans are able to effect control over other humans. Humans and chimps (and ants) are the only creatures to make war (as far as I've researched). Humans and chimps are socially structured into male-bonded kin groups. The way these groups make up for the loss of new female immigrants is by eliminating competition thru warfare - they go out on raids past their own territories and deliberately and aggressively attack lone chimps (in our case humans). The males make coalitions while the females are essentially under the control of the males and have no choice but to immigrate into other groups. You can read Demonic Males for further explanation.

Creatures that do this are better able to pass on their genes. The things you mentioned are just cultural justifications for social control. It's not necessarily greed (can you not call other animals greedy for competing?), it's survival tactics. Every organism is invested in their own self-interest, the ones who aren't don't pass on as many genes.

The only way to eliminate war is to eliminate the benefits gained by war...hard to do without destroying your livlihood. That's why societies like the Ju'wasi (small groups of foragers in Africa) have social controls for this - they make a big show of not giving too much attention or reward to accomplishments. When men come back from hunts, they almost ritually devalue what he brings back, calling the prey scrawny and joking with the man. Also, the woman who gave the man the arrow is the one to divy up the meat, so this keeps the control out of his hands, keeps the potential for hierarchy at bay. It really entails work to do this. And the more people involved the more difficult it will be to do this.
 
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  • #37
People never fail to learn from history...

The weapons will get bigger and more powerful...they will be used.

Its just a question of when and where.
 
  • #38
"If you will it, it is no dream" - Theadore Hertzl

with the right attitude, yes, humanity can be at peace with itself. People just have to have this viewpoint. On the other hand, if people don't think that humanity will ever be at peace with itself, then it won't.
 

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