Can light exist without space time?

If you are in an accelerating frame of reference, you will feel a force. So, if something is moving at a constant speed, it is not in an accelerating frame. If it is not in an accelerating frame, it is not in a non-inertial frame. So, if something is moving at a constant speed, it is not in a non-inertial frame.In summary, the concept of spacetime is essential for the existence of light. The theory of Special Relativity states that light propagates at a constant speed in any inertial frame, making it an independent entity. However, the speed of light is not constant in non-inertial frames, which can be defined in various ways. This
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Since the medium in which light propagates is space time, would light be able to exist if spacetime did not exist? Is this like one of those chicken/egg problems, or can light be thought of as a legitimately independent entity?
 
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aditya ver.2.0 said:
...or can light be thought ...
Does the way you think of it affect any quantitative predictions? If not, it's not a physics question.
 
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How can one answer the question "how would physical objects behave in a non-physical world?"
 
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aditya ver.2.0 said:
Since the medium in which light propagates is space time, would light be able to exist if spacetime did not exist?
The old idea that light propagates in a medium implies that there is just one particular Inertial Reference Frame (IRF) in which light propagates at a constant speed called "c". If that were true then we wouldn't call it spacetime, it would just be space, and time would be independent of space. But theories based on those ideas end up being rather cumbersome and confusing. On the other hand, Special Relativity asserts that light propagates at c in any and every IRF, no matter what the relative speeds are between those IRF's and that is a much simpler concept and still comports with everything we can measure about light, space and time.

aditya ver.2.0 said:
Is this like one of those chicken/egg problems, or can light be thought of as a legitimately independent entity?
Rather than thinking of Special Relativity as a problem, it is a simple solution to what would otherwise be an intractable problem in thinking about light, space and time.
 
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I can't imagine how anything could exist without space-time?
 
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The old idea that light propagates in a medium implies that there is just one particular Inertial Reference Frame (IRF) in which light propagates at a constant speed called "c". If that were true then we wouldn't call it spacetime, it would just be space, and time would be independent of space. But theories based on those ideas end up being rather cumbersome and confusing. On the other hand, Special Relativity asserts that light propagates at c in any and every IRF, no matter what the relative speeds are between those IRF's and that is a much simpler concept and still comports with everything we can measure about light, space and time.Rather than thinking of Special Relativity as a problem, it is a simple solution to what would otherwise be an intractable problem in thinking about light, space and time.
Isn't the speed of light constant in non-inertial frameoo)
 
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aditya ver.2.0 said:
Isn't the speed of light constant in non-inertial frameoo)
The speed of light is constant in the non-inertial frames I make using the radar method but other people make non-inertial frames in which the speed of light is not constant. There's no standard way (no rules) to make a non-inertial frame so you can do it any way you like. For example, in the coordinate system defined by GPS, the speed of light is not constant.
 
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aditya ver.2.0 said:
Isn't the speed of light constant in non-inertial frameoo)
Not in general, no.
 
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aditya ver.2.0 said:
Isn't the speed of light constant in non-inertial frame

In general, if the speed of something is constant in an inertial frame, it is not constant in a non-inertial frame. Light, sound, cars, bulldozers, baseballs, etc. This goes back to Newtonian mechanics.
 
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FAQ: Can light exist without space time?

Can light exist without space time?

No, according to the theory of relativity, light needs space and time to exist. It is believed that light travels through space-time as a wave, and its speed is affected by the curvature of space-time.

Is light affected by gravity?

Yes, light is affected by gravity because it travels through space-time, which is curved by the presence of massive objects. This effect is known as gravitational lensing, where the path of light is bent by the gravitational pull of massive objects.

Can light travel faster than the speed of light?

No, according to the theory of relativity, the speed of light is the maximum speed at which anything can travel. It is considered a fundamental constant of the universe and cannot be exceeded.

Does light have mass?

No, according to the theory of relativity, light is considered a massless particle. It has energy and momentum, but not mass. This is why light can travel at the speed of light, which is only possible for massless particles.

How does light travel through space-time?

Light travels through space-time as a wave, and its speed is affected by the curvature of space-time. This means that the path of light can be bent by the gravitational pull of massive objects, making it appear as if light is traveling in a curved path.

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