Can LSS unification (gravity, gauge, Higgs) be quantized à la new LQG ?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of quantizing Lisi Smolin Speziale's unification of gravity, gauge fields, and Higgs bosons in a similar manner to the new formulation of Loop Quantum Gravity. This approach would involve using a spacetime manifold and a principle G-bundle over it, with the ultimate goal of constructing a quantum version with the correct limit behavior. The conversation also mentions the possibility of a "manifoldless" quantum version using graphs, spin networks, and spinfoams. The paper in question presents a classical treatment of the unification theory and the conversation explores the potential for a quantum version.
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Can LSS unification (gravity, gauge, Higgs) be quantized à la "new LQG"?

This came out in April. We had it on our second quarter MIP ("most important paper") poll.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=413838
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http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.4866
Unification of gravity, gauge fields, and Higgs bosons
A. Garrett Lisi, Lee Smolin, Simone Speziale
12 pages
(Submitted on 27 Apr 2010)
"We consider a diffeomorphism invariant theory of a gauge field valued in a Lie algebra that breaks spontaneously to the direct sum of the spacetime Lorentz algebra, a Yang-Mills algebra, and their complement. Beginning with a fully gauge invariant action -- an extension of the Plebanski action for general relativity -- we recover the action for gravity, Yang-Mills, and Higgs fields. The low-energy coupling constants, obtained after symmetry breaking, are all functions of the single parameter present in the initial action and the vacuum expectation value of the Higgs."
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So far, this is a classical treatment. And it uses a spacetime manifold. The basic playground is a manifold M with a principle G-bundle over M where G can be, for example, Spin(1+N,3). This how I read it anyway.

We know that in some cases we can start with that kind of picture and in the course of constructing a quantum version, get a "manifoldless spacetime" picture using graphs, spin networks and spinfoams. Then, instead of a spatial or spacetime continuum one has (for each graph) a group manifold---a finite cartesian product of the basic group G. These provide a way to set up graph Hilbert spaces and then one takes a projective limit.

I haven't thought about how much of that might go over using a different group such as Spin(1+N,3).

I just toss this out in case anyone wants to have a look at the Lisi, Smolin, Speziale paper and speculate about a "manifoldless" quantum version in the style of the new formulation of LQG we got in http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.1780
 
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Just to be clear about it, in case a new person does not realize this, when I say "quantize" I do not mean in any conventional textbook sense. I mean construct a quantum version of the "new LQG" kind that has the right limit behavior---corresponding to what you started with.

By way of illustration: contemporary LQG is not some sort of methodical quantization of Ashtekar General Relativity (the connection version of classical GR). The field did indeed start out in the 1990s based on Ashtekar GR. But convergence of various attempts crystalized in a de novo reformulation different from, but combining aspects of each. Something like a leap occurred, as is described in the survey/status report http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.1780.

In other words, can you adapt http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.1780 to achieve a quantum theory version of the Lisi Smolin Speziale unification?
 
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FAQ: Can LSS unification (gravity, gauge, Higgs) be quantized à la new LQG ?

Can LSS unification be achieved through quantization?

Yes, it is possible to unify the three fundamental forces of gravity, gauge, and Higgs through quantization. This has been a major goal in theoretical physics for decades.

What is LQG and how does it differ from other quantum theories?

LQG stands for Loop Quantum Gravity, which is a theory that attempts to quantize gravity by treating spacetime as discrete, rather than continuous. It differs from other quantum theories, such as string theory, in its approach to quantizing gravity.

Is there evidence to support the idea of LSS unification through LQG?

While there is ongoing research and theoretical work on LSS unification through LQG, there is currently no experimental evidence to support this idea. However, LQG does make predictions that can potentially be tested through future experiments.

What are the challenges in quantizing LSS unification using LQG?

One of the main challenges in quantizing LSS unification using LQG is the mathematical complexity involved. LQG requires a deep understanding of both quantum mechanics and general relativity, and combining these two theories has proven to be a difficult task for physicists.

Are there alternative theories to LQG for achieving LSS unification?

Yes, there are other theories, such as string theory and supersymmetry, that also attempt to unify the fundamental forces. Each theory has its own strengths and weaknesses, and it is currently unknown which one, if any, will ultimately be successful in achieving LSS unification.

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