Can Positive Integers Satisfy the Equation $ab+bc+ca=1+5\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}$?

In summary, to solve the equation $ab+bc+ca=1+5\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}$ for positive integers, we can let $u = a+b+c$ and $v = bc + ca + ab$, and use the given equation to find that $(v-1)^2 = 25(u^2 - 2v)$. By completing the square and factoring, we can determine that $p-q$ must be a multiple of $10$ and that $u = 11$ and $v = 36$. This leads to the solution of $a=2, b=3, c=6$ (in any order).
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Solve for positive integers the equation $ab+bc+ca=1+5\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}$.
 
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Solve for positive integers the equation $ab+bc+ca=1+5\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}$.
[sp]Let $u = a+b+c$ and $v = bc + ca + ab$. Then $u^2 = (a+b+c)^2 = a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 2(bc + ca + ab) = a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 2v.$ Therefore $a^2 + b^2 + c^2 = u^2 - 2v$.

So the given equation tells us that $v-1 = 5\sqrt{u^2 - 2v}$. Thus $(v-1)^2 = 25(u^2 - 2v)$, which gives $v^2 + 48v + 1 = 25u^2.$

Complete the square to get $(v+24)^2 - 575 = (5u)^2,$ or $(v+24)^2 - (5u)^2 = 575.$ Factorise this as the difference of two squares: $(v+24 +5u)(v+24 - 5u) = 575.$

So $v+24 +5u = p$ and $v+24 -5u = q$, where $p$ and $q$ are integers whose product is $575 = 5^2\cdot23.$ Subtract the second equation from the first to get $10u = p-q.$ Thus $p-q$ must be a multiple of $10$. The only way that can happen with $pq = 5^2\cdot23$ is if $p = 5\cdot23$ and $q=5$. Thus $p-q = 10\cdot11$ and so $u = 11$. The corresponding value of $v$ is $v=36$.

Therefore $a+b+c = 11$, and $a^2+b^2+c^2= u^2 - 2v = 49$. That can only happen if one of $a,b,c$ is odd and the other two are even. This cuts down the possible values for the triple $\{a,b,c\}$ to a very few possible cases to check. The only one for which $a^2+b^2+c^2 = 49$ is $\{3,2,6\}$, and that does indeed provide a solution to the problem.

Conclusion: the numbers $a,b,c$ are $2,3,6$ (in any order).[/sp]
 
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Thanks Opalg for your neat solution!

Here is another quite similar approach with Opalg that is proposed by other:

Clearly $ab+bc+ca>6$, so if we rewrite the given equation as follows:

$ab+bc+ca-1=5\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}$

$(ab+bc+ca-1)^2=25(a^2+b^2+c^2)$

And we let $ab+bc+ca=5k+1$ where $k>0$ and $k$ is an integer so that $a^2+b^2+c^2=k^2$, we then get:

$\begin{align*}(a+b+c)^2&=a^2+b^2+c^2+2(ab+bc+ca)\\&=k^2+2(5k+1)\\&=(k+5)^2-23\end{align*}$

Therefore

$(k+5)^2-(a+b+c)^2=23$

$(k+5-a-b-c)(k+5+a+b+c)=1(23)$

Since $a,\,b,\,c,\,k$ are positive integers, it must be

$k+5-a-b-c=1$ and $k+5+a+b+c=23$

Summing up the two equations gives $k=7$.

So $a+b+c=11$ and $ab+bc+ca=36$.

Suppose WLOG, that $c>b>a$, clearly $a\le 3$. We there are three cases to consider:

$a=1$ gives $b+c=10$, $bc=26$ and this has no solution.

$a=2$ gives $b+c=9$, $bc=18$ so $b=3,\,c=6$.

$a=3$ gives $b+c=8$, $bc=12$ and this has no solution.

We can conclude by now that the solutions are hence

$(a,\,b,\,c)=(2,\,3,\,6),\,(2,\,6,\,3),\,(3,\,2,\,6),\,(3,\,6,\,2),\,(6,\,2,\,3),\,(6,\,3,\,2)$
 

FAQ: Can Positive Integers Satisfy the Equation $ab+bc+ca=1+5\sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2}$?

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When we say "solve for positive integers," we are looking for the set of whole numbers that satisfy a given equation or problem. These numbers must be greater than 0 and can include 1, 2, 3, and so on.

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Sure! Let's say we have the equation 2x + 4 = 12. To solve for positive integers, we need to find the value of x that makes this equation true. In this case, the positive integer that satisfies the equation is x = 4.

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Positive integers are whole numbers greater than 0, while negative integers are whole numbers less than 0. So, positive integers can be 1, 2, 3, and so on, while negative integers can be -1, -2, -3, and so on.

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