Can Set Union Have an Additive Inverse Like Real Numbers?

In summary, the conversation discusses the lack of an axiom for set union that corresponds to the "Existence of additive inverses" for real numbers. It also demonstrates that the operation of subtraction is not commutative, and poses a question about finding real numbers that satisfy a specific condition.
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1.show that there is no axiom for set union that correspond to "Existence of additive inverses" for real numbers, by demonstrating that in general it is impossible to find a set X such that $A\cup X=\emptyset$. what is the only set $\emptyset$ which possesses an inverse in this sense?

2. show that the operation of subtraction is not commutative,that is, it is possible to find real numbers a and b such that $b-a\not = a-b$. what can be said about a and b if $b-a=a-b?$

what to do? i don't understand what question 1 is asking.
 
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paulmdrdo said:
what to do? i don't understand what question 1 is asking.
Question 1 asks you to find a set $A$ such that $A\cup X\ne\emptyset$ for all sets $X$. Such $A$ is a counterexample to the property

For every $A$ there exists an $X$ such that $A\cup X=\emptyset$ (*)

which is an analog of the "Existence of additive inverses" for real numbers. It also asks to find a unique set $A$ for which (*) is true.
 
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If A is non-empty (for concreteness, let A = {a}), then A U X is also non-empty, because no matter what X is, A U X contains at least the element a.

Thus if A U X = Ø (for some X) it must be the case that A = Ø. What must X be, here?
 
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X must also be empty. am i right? and evegenymakarov what does this symbol mean (*)?
 
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paulmdrdo said:
X must also be empty. am i right?
Yes.

paulmdrdo said:
evegenymakarov what does this symbol mean (*)?
I denoted the statement "For every $A$ there exists an $X$ such that $A\cup X=\emptyset$" by (*) in order to refer to it later. This is often done in math texts. The label like (*) or (1) is usually located near the right page margin.
 

FAQ: Can Set Union Have an Additive Inverse Like Real Numbers?

What are the different types of real numbers?

The different types of real numbers include natural numbers, whole numbers, integers, rational numbers, and irrational numbers. Natural numbers are positive counting numbers (1, 2, 3...), whole numbers are the set of natural numbers and 0 (0, 1, 2, 3...), integers are the set of positive and negative whole numbers (-3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3...), rational numbers are numbers that can be expressed as a ratio of two integers (1/2, 0.75, -3/5), and irrational numbers are numbers that cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers and have infinite non-repeating decimals (pi, square root of 2).

What is the commutative property of real numbers?

The commutative property of real numbers states that the order of numbers can be changed without affecting the result of addition or multiplication. For example, 2 + 3 = 3 + 2 and 4 x 6 = 6 x 4. This property does not hold for subtraction or division.

What is the associative property of real numbers?

The associative property of real numbers states that the grouping of numbers can be changed without affecting the result of addition or multiplication. For example, (2 + 3) + 4 = 2 + (3 + 4) and (4 x 6) x 2 = 4 x (6 x 2). This property does not hold for subtraction or division.

What is the distributive property of real numbers?

The distributive property of real numbers states that when multiplying a number by a sum, the result is the same as multiplying each term in the sum by the number and then adding the products. For example, 2 x (3 + 4) = (2 x 3) + (2 x 4) = 14. This property holds for all operations (addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division).

How do you determine if a number is rational or irrational?

A number is rational if it can be written as a fraction of two integers, and irrational if it cannot be written as a fraction and has an infinite number of non-repeating decimals. One way to determine if a number is rational or irrational is to try to write it as a fraction. If it can be written as a fraction, it is rational. If not, it is irrational.

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