Can someone give me a hand with large root here

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of simplifying and removing a large square root from a quotient. The expert explains that the square root can be eliminated by squaring the entire quotient and that the decision to keep or remove the root is a matter of preference.
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lioric
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i get the differentiation
the halves cancel the 2 the h bar cancels the h bar square
and to get rid of the root in the denominator the entire thing is squared
But I cannot understand where the huge square root came from at the end where I circled.
Can someone help me here
 
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  • #2
##a = \sqrt{a^2}## for positive ##a## and ##\frac{a}{\sqrt{b}} = \frac{\sqrt{a^2}}{\sqrt{b}} = \sqrt{\frac{a^2}{b}}##
 
  • #3
fresh_42 said:
##a = \sqrt{a^2}## for positive ##a## and ##\frac{a}{\sqrt{b}} = \frac{\sqrt{a^2}}{\sqrt{b}} = \sqrt{\frac{a^2}{b}}##

Ok i understand what you are saying.
But what if we square the entire thing
relativistic 2.jpg

And the root and the square gets canceled like this
relativistic 3.jpg
 
  • #4
lioric said:
Ok i understand what you are saying.
But what if we square the entire thing
View attachment 96288
And the root and the square gets canceled like this
View attachment 96289
Exactly. If
$$
\left( \frac{pc^2}{\sqrt{p^2c^2 + m^2 c^4}} \right)^2 = \frac{p^2c^4}{p^2c^2 + m^2 c^4}
$$
then
$$
\frac{pc^2}{\sqrt{p^2c^2 + m^2 c^4}} = \sqrt{\frac{p^2c^4}{p^2c^2 + m^2 c^4}}
$$
which is what you have in original text.
 
  • #5
You don't square the entire quotient. Set ##a=pc^2## and ##b = p^2c^2+p^2m^4##.
 
  • #6
DrClaude said:
Exactly. If
$$
\left( \frac{pc^2}{\sqrt{p^2c^2 + m^2 c^4}} \right)^2 = \frac{p^2c^4}{p^2c^2 + m^2 c^4}
$$
then
$$
\frac{pc^2}{\sqrt{p^2c^2 + m^2 c^4}} = \sqrt{\frac{p^2c^4}{p^2c^2 + m^2 c^4}}
$$
which is what you have in original text.

Ok if one can get rid of the huge square root why keep it.
I mean as you said in the first part, why is the solution choosing to keep the huge root if we can choose to remove it
 
  • #7
lioric said:
Ok if one can get rid of the huge square root why keep it.
I mean as you said in the first part, why is the solution choosing to keep the huge root if we can choose to remove it
It is a question of preference. Some things can be easier to see if all the terms are on the same footing (e.g., all under the square root), but where to stop simplifying can be a matter of taste.
 
  • #8
DrClaude said:
It is a question of preference. Some things can be easier to see if all the terms are on the same footing (e.g., all under the square root), but where to stop simplifying can be a matter of taste.
Thank you very much
I'll try it both ways once I get a hang of things
Thank you very very much
 

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