Can Spacetime Curvature change c ?

In summary, the speed of light does not change with the curvature of space, but the velocity of light can change.
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Antonio Lao
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I am not sure.
 
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No, c, the SPEED of light does not change with the curvature of space. The VELOCITY of light , however, can change.

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Keep in mind that we live in a curved region of space, yet we measure a constant c.
 
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Integral,

Thanks.
 
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Also, keep in mind that our choice of (inertial) coordinates can influence our observations of events not happing right next to us. In most coordinate systems, the coordinate velocity (dx/dt, dy/dt, dz/dt) for light does not need to have magnitude c at distant points. One can interpret this as saying that the geometry of space distorts our observation of distant events.

Though, if you choose an (inertial) coordinate chart centered at that distant point, the coordinate speed of light there would, in fact, be c.
 
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Am I right to say that an inertial frame is just another way of saying a rest frame of coordinate? c is c only if it is measured in a local frame of reference that is at rest.
 
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I'm not the person to turn for GR semantics. :smile: But yes, what I said is an inertial coordinate chart is one that would be appropriate for the rest frame of an inertial observer.
 
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Hurkyl said:
I'm not the person to turn for GR semantics. :smile: But yes, what I said is an inertial coordinate chart is one that would be appropriate for the rest frame of an inertial observer.

So, theoretically, if I was going the speed of light, light would be standing still within the parameters of general relativity and according to my personal inertial frame ? (sorry, slightly off topic)
 
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If we accept the fact that we get c only in a rest frame and that c is measured equally at any rest frame location in the universe, then it can be said that as a whole, the universe is at rest but the things inside it are not at rest. In other words, the total linear momentum of the universe is zero.
 
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Then C constant means that we are talking about a deep symmetry of our universe, where each non-zero measurement can be naturalized by its opposite.

This is the macro picture, but from the QM micro picture we have learned that uncertainty is also a fundamental property of our universe.

String theory tries to connect between the macro picture and the micro picture by ignoring the uncertainty, but I think this is a mistake, because in my opinion, uncertainty and redundancy are fundamental properties of any universe that includes creatures like us, who can ask questions about it.

C is the signature of stability of where Plank h is the signature of non-stability.
 
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We know that many researchers are still working on how to combine the micro and the macro into something that is in between. I can call it midcro (middle world). In a sense, human beings are the middle point between the microworld and the macroworld.
Is this what is called the anthropic cosmological principle?

There are many other physical constants of nature besides c that no one knows why they have their respective empirical values. The anthropic principle indicates that these constants are what they are so that human consciousness can exist.
 
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I think that the main point here is that our universe is based on the ability to associate between opposite properties, where the results of these associations is any thing that survives mutual destruction.

Our cognition's abilities are first tuned to self reservation, and the meaning of this is to define non-destructive ways to survive and flourish.

Please read this:

http://www.geocities.com/complementarytheory/RTD.pdf
 
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FAQ: Can Spacetime Curvature change c ?

1. Can spacetime curvature change the speed of light (c)?

Yes, spacetime curvature can affect the speed of light. In Einstein's theory of general relativity, gravity is described as the curvature of spacetime. This means that the path of light is also affected by the curvature of spacetime, causing it to appear as if it is changing its speed.

2. How does spacetime curvature affect the speed of light (c)?

Spacetime curvature can cause the speed of light to vary depending on the strength of the gravitational field. In areas of strong curvature, the speed of light can slow down, while in areas of weak curvature, it can speed up. This is because spacetime curvature affects the geometry of space, which in turn affects the path of light.

3. Can the speed of light (c) change in a vacuum due to spacetime curvature?

Yes, in a vacuum, the speed of light can change due to spacetime curvature. This is because even in a vacuum, there is still spacetime curvature caused by the presence of massive objects such as stars and galaxies. This curvature can change the speed of light as it travels through the vacuum.

4. Is the speed of light (c) affected equally by all types of spacetime curvature?

No, the speed of light is not affected equally by all types of spacetime curvature. The strength of the gravitational field, which is determined by the mass and density of an object, determines the amount of curvature. Therefore, the speed of light can be affected differently depending on the strength of the gravitational field.

5. Can spacetime curvature change the value of the speed of light (c)?

No, the value of the speed of light is a fundamental constant in the universe and cannot be changed by spacetime curvature. However, the perceived speed of light can vary due to the effects of spacetime curvature, as discussed in the previous questions. The speed of light will always be constant in a vacuum, regardless of the curvature of spacetime.

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