Can the Addition Formula for PDFs Also Apply to CDFs?

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In summary, the conversation is about the addition rule for probability density functions (PDFs) and cumulative distribution functions (CDFs). The question is whether the addition rule, which states that the probability of the union of two events is equal to the sum of their individual probabilities minus the probability of their intersection, also applies to CDFs. The conversation also includes a discussion about a specific scenario involving independent random variables and the use of joint density functions.
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Hello,

i was wondering if the additon formula for PDFs holds also for CDFs.

Particularly, when an X event or a Y event may occur then the total PDF= PDF [X] + PDF [Y].

The same goes for CDFs ? i.e. total CDF = CDF [X] +CDF [Y] ?


Any help would be useful.
Thanks in advance
 
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nikozm said:
Particularly, when an X event or a Y event may occur then the total PDF= PDF [X] + PDF [Y].

What do you mean by the "total" PDF? - what random variable is the "total" PDF a PDF for?

Are you assuming X and Y are mutually exclusive events?
 
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yes, X and Y are mutually exclusive events. Now, let g = X given a constraint, while g = Y given another constraint.
Then the unconditional (total) PDF of g is well-known to be: PDF [g] = PDF [X] + PDF [Y].

My question, however, is simply if the addition rule for probability density function also holds for CDFs..

Thanks
 
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nikozm said:
yes, X and Y are mutually exclusive events. Now, let g = X given a constraint, while g = Y given another constraint.
Then the unconditional (total) PDF of g is well-known to be: PDF [g] = PDF [X] + PDF [Y].

Can you rephrase that using standard terminology?

"PDFs" are something associated with "random variables". "Events" have "probabilities", not "PDFs".
"Events" can be "mutually exclusive". I've never encountered the term "mutually exclusive" applied to "random variables". How would that be defined?
 
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ok. I m interested in continious random variables, so i refer to PDFs and CDFs in the following:

X and Y are independent random variables. Now, let g = X given a constraint, while g = Y given another constraint.

Then the unconditional (total) PDF of g is well-known to be: PDF [g] = PDF [X] + PDF [Y].
My question, however, is simply if the addition rule for probability density function also holds for CDFs..

Thanks
 
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I'm sorry, I still don't understand.

nikozm said:
let g = X given a constraint, while g = Y given another constraint.

Then the unconditional (total) PDF of g

If g is has a PDF, I assume g must be a random variable. So is "g = X" a constraint that is defined by the equality of two random variables?

Can you give a link or specific example?
 
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ok i will try to be more specific.

Let g = a*X when a> r and g = a*Y when a < r. Assume a, X, Y are independent non-negative random variables and r is non-negative constant value.
Then it holds that: PDF [g] = PDF[a*X, given that a > r] + PDF[a*Y, given that a < r].

I am just wondering if the above formula also holds if we substitute PDFs with CDFs..
 
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nikozm said:
Then it holds that: PDF [g] = PDF[a*X, given that a > r] + PDF[a*Y, given that a < r].

If A and B are events then
Probability(A) = Probability(A and B) + Probability (A and not-B).
Probability(A) = Probability(A given B) Probability(B) + Probability(A given not-B) Probability(not-B)

So I don't see why the result isn't

PDF[g](s) = PDF[a*X | a > r)](s) Probability( a > r) + PDF[a*Y| a < r)](s) Probability(a < r)
 
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Can you just tell me if the addition rule for probabilities stands also for CDFs in general ?
 
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nikozm said:
Can you just tell me if the addition rule for probabilities stands also for CDFs in general ?

First we have to get straight what you mean by "the addition rule" as applied to PDFs. If f and g are PDFs then f + g won't be a PDF since the integral of f+g over the real line will be 2 instead of 1.
 
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Are you're referring to [itex] P(A \cup B) = P(A) + P(B) - P(A \cap B) [/itex]?

I don't understand how you intend to apply that a PDF or CDF. If you are referring to a "well known" result about PDFs then please give a link to this result about PDFs.

If you are asking about a situation involving two different random variables X,Y then you are dealing with a joint density function h(x,y) of two variables. Some authors define the "joint cumulative distribution" for the joint density. Are you asking a question about the joint cumulative distribution?
 

FAQ: Can the Addition Formula for PDFs Also Apply to CDFs?

What is an addition formula for CDFs?

An addition formula for CDFs is a mathematical equation that allows you to find the CDF (cumulative distribution function) of the sum of two random variables using the CDFs of each individual variable.

Why is an addition formula for CDFs useful?

An addition formula for CDFs is useful because it allows you to easily find the CDF of a sum of random variables, which is often needed in statistical analysis and probability calculations.

How do you use an addition formula for CDFs?

To use an addition formula for CDFs, you first need to have the CDFs of the individual random variables. Then, you can plug these CDFs into the formula and solve for the CDF of the sum.

What are some common examples of using addition formulas for CDFs?

Addition formulas for CDFs are commonly used in finance, insurance, and other fields that deal with probability and statistical analysis. For example, they can be used to calculate the probability of a portfolio's return or the risk of an insurance policy.

Are there any limitations to using addition formulas for CDFs?

Yes, there are limitations to using addition formulas for CDFs. They are only applicable when the two random variables are independent, and when the CDFs of the individual variables are known. Additionally, they may not work for more complex distributions or when dealing with non-linear transformations of the variables.

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