Can this algebraic problem be solved without observation?

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In summary: Read MoreIn summary, the problem presented involves solving a system of linear equations with 2013 unknowns and 2013 equations. The equations can be written in matrix form as $H_na = 4k$, where $a$ and $k$ are column vectors and $H_n$ is the variant Hilbert matrix. The inverse of $H_n$ can be found using a formula involving binomial coefficients. The solution can also be expressed as a double summation, but it is a difficult problem to solve by hand. A useful property of $H_n^{-1}$ is that it can be factorized as a product of two matrices.
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Hi MHB,

I was wondering if this is a very hard problem to solve algebraically, rather than by mere observation.

Problem:

Given

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{2}+\frac{a_2}{3}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{2014}=\frac{4}{3}\)

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{4}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{2015}=\frac{4}{5}\)

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{4}+\frac{a_2}{5}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{2016}=\frac{4}{7}\)

...

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{2014}+\frac{a_2}{2015}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{4026}=\frac{4}{4027}\)Find

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{4027}\)Attempt:

I first started out by using only two terms, $a_1$ and $a_2$ to find the values for each terms and then add one-third to the variable $a_1$ and one-fifth to the variable $a_2$ and I see that

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}=\frac{24}{25}=1-\frac{1}{5^2}\)

I then played with three terms, $a_1, a_2$ and $a_3$ and get

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}+\frac{a_3}{7}=\frac{48}{49}=1-\frac{1}{7^2}\)

and Et voila, we can conclude that \(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{4027}=1-\frac{1}{4027^2}\)


But I know this is a piece of sloppy working...could someone show me the "real" method to solve this kind of problem? Thanks.
 
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Re: Find a_1/3+a_2/5+..

I wouldn't say it was "hard", just extremely "tedious". You could use a purely "mechanical" algorithm (such as could be programmed into a computer or calculator) to solve 2013 linear equations with 2013 unknowns but it would take a heck of a long time by hand!
 
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Re: Find a_1/3+a_2/5+..

I see...thanks for the reply, HallsofIvy!
 
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Re: Find a_1/3+a_2/5+..

anemone said:
Hi MHB,
I was wondering if this is a very hard problem to solve algebraically, rather than by mere observation.
Problem:
Given
\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{2}+\frac{a_2}{3}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{2014}=\frac{4}{3}\)
\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{4}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{2015}=\frac{4}{5}\)
\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{4}+\frac{a_2}{5}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{2016}=\frac{4}{7}\)
...
\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{2014}+\frac{a_2}{2015}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{4026}=\frac{4}{4027}\)
Find
\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{4027}\)
Attempt:
I first started out by using only two terms, $a_1$ and $a_2$ to find the values for each terms and then add one-third to the variable $a_1$ and one-fifth to the variable $a_2$ and I see that
\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}=\frac{24}{25}=1-\frac{1}{5^2}\)
I then played with three terms, $a_1, a_2$ and $a_3$ and get
\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}+\frac{a_3}{7}=\frac{48}{49}=1-\frac{1}{7^2}\)
and Et voila, we can conclude that \(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}+...+\frac{a_{2013}}{4027}=1-\frac{1}{4027^2}\)
But I know this is a piece of sloppy working...could someone show me the "real" method to solve this kind of problem? Thanks.
The system of equations
$$\begin{aligned}\frac{a_1}{2}+\frac{a_2}{3}+ … +\frac{a_n}{n+1} &=\frac{4}{3}\\ \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{4}+…+\frac{a_{n}}{n+2} &=\frac{4}{5}\\ \frac{a_1}{4}+\frac{a_2}{5}+…+\frac{a_{n}}{n+3} &=\frac{4}{7} \\ &\vdots\\ \frac{a_1}{n+1}+\frac{a_2}{n+2}+…+\frac{a_{n}}{2n} &=\frac{4}{2n+1} \end{aligned}$$
can be written in matrix form as $H_na = 4k$, where $a$, $k$ are the column vectors with coordinates $(a_1,a_2,\ldots,a_n)$, $\bigl(\frac13,\frac15,\ldots,\frac1{2n+1}\bigr)$, and $H_n$ is the $n\times n$ Hilbert matrix $$H_n = \begin{bmatrix} \frac12&\frac13&\frac14&\ldots&\frac1{n+1}\\ \frac13&\frac14&\frac15&\ldots&\frac1{n+2}\\ \frac14&\frac15&\frac16&\ldots&\frac1{n+3}\\ \vdots&\vdots&\vdots&\ddots&\vdots\\ \frac1{n+1}&\frac1{n+2}&\frac1{n+3}&\ldots&\frac1{2n} \end{bmatrix}.$$ Strictly speaking, $H_n$ is a variant of the Hilbert matrix. The standard Hilbert matrix starts with $1$ rather than $\frac12$ in the top left corner.The problem in this thread is to find the inner product $\langle a,k\rangle = \sum_{i=1}^na_ik_i$ when $n=2013.$ HallsofIvy correctly comments that this is "just" a question of solving a system of linear equations. But the Hilbert matrix is notoriously ill-conditioned for such calculations, and I suspect that a computer would be hard put to come up with an exact solution to a system containing so many different fractions. Unless I am overlooking some clever technique, this is a very tricky problem, and anemone has done well to spot that the answer should be $1-\frac1{(2n+1)^2}.$As Halloween approaches, this is a good time to give a link to Man-Duen Choi's fascinating paper Tricks or treats with the Hilbert matrix. All the ideas in this comment come from Choi's paper. The only difference is that Choi deals with the standard Hilbert matrix, and the numbers have to be changed for the variant Hilbert matrix.The (variant) Hilbert matrix is invertible, so the equation $H_na = 4k$ can be written as $a = 4H_n^{-1}k$, and the inner product $\langle a,k\rangle$ then becomes $4\langle H_n^{-1}k,k\rangle$. That enables us to avoid having to find the vector $a$ at all, but at the cost of having to find $H_n^{-1}$. For $n=2,3,4$ the inverses are $$ H_2^{-1} = \begin{bmatrix} 18&-24\\ -24&36\end{bmatrix}, \qquad H_3^{-1} = \begin{bmatrix} 72&-240&180 \\ -240&900&-720 \\ 180&-720&600\end{bmatrix}, \qquad H_4^{-1} = \begin{bmatrix} 200 &-1200 &2100 &-1120 \\ -1200 &8100 &-15120 &8400 \\ 2100 &-15120 &29400 &-16800 \\ -1120 & 8400 &-16800 & 9800 \end{bmatrix}.$$ Here you see the first surprise that the Hilbert matrix has to offer: its inverse consists entirely of integers! The general formula for the $(i,j)$-entry in $H_n^{-1}$ is $$\bigl(H_n^{-1}\bigr)_{i\,j} = \frac{(-1)^{i+j}ij}{i+j}{n\choose i}{n\choose j}{n+i\choose i}{n+j\choose j}. \qquad(1)$$
If you use those values for the elements of $(H_n)^{-1}$ then you find that $$4\langle H_n^{-1}k,k\rangle = \sum_{i,j=1}^n \frac{(-1)^{i+j}ij}{(2i+1)(2j+1)(i+j)}{n\choose i}{n\choose j}{n+i\choose i}{n+j\choose j}. \qquad(2)$$ That ought to reduce to $1-\frac1{(2n+1)^2}.$ But it looks like a very hard double summation, and I have no idea how to do it.A useful property of $H_n^{-1}$ is that it factorises as a product $H_n^{-1} = X_n^*X_n$, where $X_n$ is an upper -triangular matrix so that its transpose $X_n^*$ is lower-triangular. For $n=2,3,4$ these factorisations look like $$\begin{bmatrix} 18&-24\\ -24&36\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} \sqrt2 & -2\sqrt4 \\ 0 & 3\sqrt4 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} \sqrt2 & 0 \\ -2\sqrt4 & 3\sqrt4 \end{bmatrix}, \qquad \begin{bmatrix} 72&-240&180 \\ -240&900&-720 \\ 180&-720&600\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} \sqrt2 & -2\sqrt4 & 3\sqrt6 \\ 0 & 3\sqrt4 & -12\sqrt6 \\ 0&0& 10\sqrt6 \end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} \sqrt2 & 0 &0 \\ -2\sqrt4 & 3\sqrt4 &0 \\ 3\sqrt6 & -12\sqrt6 & 10\sqrt6 \end{bmatrix},$$ $$\begin{bmatrix} 200 &-1200 &2100 &-1120 \\ -1200 &8100 &-15120 &8400 \\ 2100 &-15120 &29400 &-16800 \\ -1120 & 8400 &-16800 & 9800\end{bmatrix} = \begin{bmatrix} \sqrt2 & -2\sqrt4 & 3\sqrt6 & -4\sqrt8 \\ 0 & 3\sqrt4 & -12\sqrt6 & 30\sqrt8\\ 0&0& 10\sqrt6 & -60\sqrt8 \\ 0&0&0& 35\sqrt8\end{bmatrix} \begin{bmatrix} \sqrt2 & 0 &0&0 \\ -2\sqrt4 & 3\sqrt4 &0&0 \\ 3\sqrt6 & -12\sqrt6 & 10\sqrt6 &0 \\ -4\sqrt8 & 30\sqrt8 & -60\sqrt8 & 35\sqrt8 \end{bmatrix}$$ (I have left $\sqrt4$ without simplifying it in order to make the pattern clearer). The general formula for the $(i,j)$-element of $X_n$ is $$(X_n)_{i\,j} = (-1)^{i+j}\sqrt{2i}\frac j{i+j}{i\choose j}{i+j \choose j}\qquad(3)$$ for $i\geqslant j$, and $(X_n)_{i\,j} = 0$ for $i<j$. Notice that $(X_n)_{i\,j}$ does not depend on $n$. This means that each matrix $X_n$ is embedded as the top left part of $X_{n+1}$. As Choi points out, this can be extremely useful in proofs by induction.Coming back to the expression that we want to evaluate, we can now write $\langle a,k\rangle = 4\langle H_n^{-1}k,k\rangle = 4\langle X_n^*X_nk,k\rangle = 4\langle X_nk,X_nk\rangle = 4\|X_nk\|^2$. That last expression is $4$ times the sum of the squares of the coordinates of $X_nk$. The $i$th coordinate of $X_nk$ is $$\sum_{j=1}^i (-1)^{i+j}\sqrt{2i}\frac j{(i+j)(2j+1)}{i\choose j}{i+j \choose j}. \qquad(4)$$ In the cases when $n=2,\;3$ and $4$, that sum (4) is equal to $\dfrac{(-1)^{i-1}\sqrt{2i}}{4i^2-1}$. If that holds in general, then it follows that $$\langle a,k\rangle = \sum_{i=1}^n\dfrac{8i}{(4i^2-1)^2}.\qquad(5)$$ But $$\dfrac{8i}{(4i^2-1)^2} = \dfrac{8i}{(2i-1)^2(2i+1)^2} = \dfrac1{(2i-1)^2} - \dfrac1{(2i+1)^2}.$$ Thus the series in (5) becomes a telescoping sum, equal to $1-\frac1{(2n+1)^2}$, as we wanted.What has been achieved by all this? Unfortunately, very little. To complete the proof that $\langle a,k\rangle = 1-\frac1{(2n+1)^2}$, it would be necessary to sum either the double series (2) (which seems impossibly hard), or the series (4). That at least only involves summation over one index, but I still do not see how to sum it.
 
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Re: Find a_1/3+a_2/5+..

Hi Opalg,

Thank you so much for your reply, and even though we haven't "solved" this problem using your matrices approach, I feel I owe you a great deal of gratitude since I can tell you have had spent a great deal of time trying to solve this hard problem and for this, I am very grateful to you for your help!

Words cannot aptly express my gratitude to you, Mr. Opalg!:)
 
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anemone said:
\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}=\frac{24}{25}=1-\frac{1}{5^2}\)

I then played with three terms, $a_1, a_2$ and $a_3$ and get

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{5}+\frac{a_3}{7}=\frac{48}{49}=1-\frac{1}{7^2}\)

Hello

How did you get these two equations. I am confused.
 
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IssacNewton said:
Hello

How did you get these two equations. I am confused.

Hi IssacNewton,

Let's say we want to limit the number of variables in the given problem down to only two, namely $a_1$ and $a_2$, we then have the following system:

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{2}+\frac{a_2}{3}=\frac{4}{3}\)

\(\displaystyle \frac{a_1}{3}+\frac{a_2}{4}=\frac{4}{5}\)

and this is a system of linear equations and I believe you know how to solve for the rest!:)
 
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Re: Find a_1/3+a_2/5+..

Thanks...it now makes complete sense. (Music)
 

FAQ: Can this algebraic problem be solved without observation?

What is the formula for finding the sum of a series with a common difference of 1/3 and 1/5?

The formula for finding the sum of a series with a common difference of 1/3 and 1/5 is an = a1 + (n-1)(d), where an represents the value of the n-th term, a1 represents the first term in the series, and d represents the common difference of the series.

Can this formula be used for any series with a common difference of 1/3 and 1/5?

Yes, this formula can be used for any series with a common difference of 1/3 and 1/5 as long as the first term of the series is known and the series has a finite number of terms.

How can I find the sum of a series with a common difference of 1/3 and 1/5 if the series has an infinite number of terms?

If the series has an infinite number of terms, the sum can be found using the formula S = a1 / (1-r), where S represents the sum of the series and r represents the common ratio of the series. In this case, the common ratio would be 1/3 + 1/5 = 8/15.

How do I know if a series with a common difference of 1/3 and 1/5 is convergent or divergent?

A series with a common difference of 1/3 and 1/5 is convergent if the common ratio, r, is less than 1. In this case, since r = 8/15, the series would be convergent. If the common ratio is greater than or equal to 1, then the series would be divergent.

Can I use this formula to find the sum of a series with a different common difference?

No, this formula is specifically for finding the sum of a series with a common difference of 1/3 and 1/5. For a series with a different common difference, a different formula would need to be used.

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