Can time on elliptical orbit be expressed analytically?

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In summary, elliptical orbits cannot be expressed analytically, but can be calculated with Kepler's equation.
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Can time on elliptical orbit be expressed analytically? Which relations are capable of analytic expression?
The distance from focus can be expressed as a function of position angle θ:
r=a(1-e2)/(1+e cos θ)
The length linearly along the ellipse famously cannot be expressed analytically.
The total time spent on ellipse depends on a alone (Kepler 3rd).
If the angular speed at any r of θ were known then the angular speed at any other r would be because r∂θ/∂t=cost for any a and e.
But is there any analytic expression to find r∂θ/∂t given a and e?
Also, is there any way to find
0θ∫∂θ/∂t, or 0t∫∂t/∂θ? These are different questions because many analytic expressions cannot be reversed.
 
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Have you investigated Kepler’s second law of constant area speed for your problem already ?
 
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If your inverse square central force problem is governed by [tex]
\ddot r - r\dot \theta^2 = -\frac{K}{r^2}[/tex] with [itex]L = r^2\dot\theta[/itex] constant and [itex]\theta(0) = 0[/itex] then we have [tex]
L^2 = K\ell[/tex] where the semi-latus rectum [itex]\ell[/itex] of the elliptical orbit is given in terms of the semi-major axis [itex]a[/itex] and eccentricity [itex]0 \leq e < 1[/itex] by [tex]
\ell = a(1 - e^2).[/tex] We then have [tex]\begin{split}
Lt &= \int_0^t L\,dt \\
&= \int_0^{\theta(t)} r^2 \,d\theta \\
&= \int_0^\theta \frac{\ell^2}{(1 + e\cos \theta)^2}\,d\theta.\end{split}[/tex]
 
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Found the answer to two questions (out of the three).
Kepler equation:
M=E-e*sin E
where M is mean anomaly and E is an intermediate expression called "elliptic anomaly".
E can be expressed through true anomaly and vice versa:
sin E=√(1-e2)*sin θ/(1+e*cos θ)
tan θ/2=√((1+e)/(1-e))*tan E/2
Given E, or θ, finding M is straightforward.
Finding E (and thus θ) given M is an insoluble problem after over four centuries.
 
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Found the answer to two questions (out of the three).
Given E, or θ, finding M is straightforward.
Finding E (and thus θ) given M is an insoluble problem after over four centuries.
The answer to third question is also easy on some reflection.
While θ as a function of M is insoluble, M as a function of θ is soluble. But since M can be expressed as a function of θ, you can express ∂M/∂θ as function of θ - you can take a derivative of every function but you cannot take an integral of every function. But since ∂θ/∂M is a simple reciprocal of ∂M/∂θ, you can calculate it, as long as you are calculating it as a function of θ rather than M (which is insoluble).
 
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So do you have a result?
 
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The original question, 'Can time on elliptical orbit be expressed analytically?' is a little vague. I think it means can the time into an orbit, i.e. the time since the planet was at the orbit pericenter (point of closest approach) be expressed as a function of the true anomaly (the angle of the planet as measured from the foci of orbit).

Ref: 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mean_anomaly
Ref: 2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eccentric_anomaly

From Ref. 1 the mean anomaly M is an angular expression for the time t into the orbit
M = 360/T *( t - 0), where T is the orbit period which is known.

So, if we knew the relationship between the mean anomaly and true anomaly we'd have the desired function. From Ref. 1
Mean anomaly can be calculated from the eccentricity and the true anomaly f by finding the eccentric anomaly and then using Kepler's equation. This gives, in radians:
M = atan2( ............................

The difficult question is determining the radial distance r from t. This is known as Kepler's Problem. From Ref. 2, r is related to the eccentric anomaly (see the graphical representation for a definition of eccentric anomaly) by
r = a(1 - e*cos(E) ) where a is the semi-major axis of the orbit and e is the orbit eccentricity

So we can determine t from M, and r from E.

The eccentric anomaly E is related to the mean anomaly M by Kepler's Equation
M = E( 1 -e*sin(E)), this requires a non-trivial derivation.

To determine r from t requires solving Kepler's equation for E as a function of M. Both Kepler and Newton gave numerical methods for solving the equation, with Newton's method being far superior.

There is no analytic closed form solution for Kepler's equation, Lagrange derived an infinite series solution in the 1700s, any more mathematicians have addressed the problem over the years, as covered in Solving Kepler's Equation Over Three Centuries by Colwell.
 

FAQ: Can time on elliptical orbit be expressed analytically?

1. What does it mean for time on an elliptical orbit to be expressed analytically?

Expressing time on an elliptical orbit analytically means finding a mathematical formula or expression that describes the relationship between time and the position of an object in its elliptical path. This typically involves using Kepler's laws of planetary motion and the geometry of ellipses to derive equations that can predict the position of an orbiting body at any given time.

2. Is there a specific formula for calculating time in an elliptical orbit?

Yes, the time spent in an elliptical orbit can be calculated using Kepler's equation, which relates the mean anomaly, eccentric anomaly, and eccentricity of the orbit. The mean anomaly is a measure of time, while the eccentric anomaly provides the position of the body along the orbit. The equation is generally written as M = E - e*sin(E), where M is the mean anomaly, E is the eccentric anomaly, and e is the eccentricity of the orbit.

3. Can the period of an elliptical orbit be derived analytically?

Yes, the period of an elliptical orbit can be derived analytically using Kepler's third law, which states that the square of the orbital period (T) is proportional to the cube of the semi-major axis (a) of the ellipse. The formula is T² = (4π²/GM)a³, where G is the gravitational constant and M is the mass of the central body being orbited.

4. Are there any limitations to expressing time analytically in elliptical orbits?

One limitation is that Kepler's equation does not have a simple algebraic solution for the eccentric anomaly (E), which means that numerical methods are often used to solve for E given the mean anomaly (M). Additionally, for highly eccentric orbits, the time calculation can become more complex due to the varying speed of the orbiting body, as it moves faster near periapsis and slower near apoapsis.

5. How does the eccentricity of an orbit affect the analytical expression of time?

The eccentricity of an orbit affects the shape of the ellipse and, consequently, the speed of the orbiting body at different points in the orbit. Higher eccentricities result in more elongated orbits, leading to greater variations in orbital speed. This variability complicates the analytical expressions for time, as the relationship between time and position is not linear, requiring more complex calculations to account for these differences.

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