Can two photons be at the same place at the same time?

In summary: So two photons that are in the same place at the same time are really just two photons that are in the same place at the same time as far as the laser is concerned.
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Since photons are bosons and do not follow the pauli exclusion principle, does this mean that two photons can be at the same place at the same time?

Is it meaningful to talk about a photon 'colliding' with another photon?

I mean, suppose we send two photons of the same color towards each other at an angle of 60 degrees between them, and they meet. Is that a 'collision'?

Do the photon's directions change and just add up vectorially? I'm thinking that since the photon speeds can't add up, and must stay the same, since they already travel at the speed of light, how can momentum be conserved? Does one absorb the other? How about energy conservation?
 
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AlexanderRios said:
Since photons are bosons and do not follow the pauli exclusion principle, does this mean that two photons can be at the same place at the same time?

Yes. (Though technically there is a sense in which the position of a photon isn't perfectly well defined in the first place).

AlexanderRios said:
Is it meaningful to talk about a photon 'colliding' with another photon?

Sure. Most of the time photons pass through each other without affecting each other, but sometimes (very rarely) they scatter off each other. The probability of scattering is extremely small unless the photons have extremely high energy. When scattering occurs the final directions of the photons can only be predicted probabilistically.

But note that it's not necessary for two particles to be in exactly the same place in order for them to scatter off each other. For example, electrons can scatter off each other. In this case the scattering is caused by the electric repulsion between the two electrons.
 
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To have a sensible discussion, you need to describe what sort of measurement that you would do that would indicate "two photons in the same place at the same time". Otherwise this will turn into a discussion of what the photons are doing when we aren't looking at them, which will lead to much heat and very little light.
 
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How can photons interact with each other? they don't carry a charge. Except for if you mean radiative corrections, something like the attachment.
However I wasn't able to find how to put the arrows :) [could there be an easier diagram?]
 

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Yeah, that's the simplest diagram for photon-photon scattering.
 
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ChrisVer said:
However I wasn't able to find how to put the arrows :)

You put the arrows in one direction around the loop. The fermions are internal lines and you cannot really talk about them being particles/antiparticles. There are also additional diagrams where the order of the connected external lines are permuted with respect to your diagram.
 
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The laser is based on the principle of coherence, i.e. photons joining together in the laser beam.
 

FAQ: Can two photons be at the same place at the same time?

1. Can two photons occupy the same physical space at the same time?

According to the principles of quantum mechanics, two photons can indeed be at the same place at the same time. This is known as the phenomenon of quantum superposition, where particles can exist in multiple states simultaneously.

2. How is it possible for two photons to be in the same location?

Photons, being elementary particles, do not have a definite position and can exist in a state of superposition. This means that they have a probability of being in multiple locations at once, including the same location.

3. Is there a limit to the number of photons that can be in the same place at the same time?

There is no theoretical limit to the number of photons that can be in the same location at the same time. However, in reality, there are practical limitations due to factors such as the size of the particles and their interactions with each other.

4. What is the significance of two photons being at the same place at the same time?

The concept of two photons being in the same location at the same time is crucial in fields such as quantum computing and quantum communication. It allows for the manipulation and transfer of information through quantum states, leading to advancements in technology.

5. Can two photons with the same properties occupy the same physical space?

Yes, two photons with the same properties, such as energy and wavelength, can occupy the same physical space at the same time. This is because they are indistinguishable, and the principles of quantum mechanics allow for this type of superposition.

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