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Because older theories imagined there was a preferred frame (aether theories of electromagnetism, for example), so they are usually making a pedagogical point about how relativity dispenses with the idea of any preferred frame. Also, there's always the faint possibility that future experiments will show relativity is wrong and bring back the idea of a physically preferred frame.SW VandeCarr said:1. If there is no naturally preferred frame reference (which I agree with), why would physicists need to use the term "preferred" in this sense"?
Relativity doesn't respect Mach's principle in this sense, in relativity an observer could decide if he was accelerating even if he was the only object in the universe. So, again, are you just arguing that there might be an absolute frame if relativity turns out to be wrong?SW VandeCarr said:2. I'm not saying there is a basis for a for an absolute frame of reference. Mach's principle suggests there might be as an explanation for the 'force" of acceleration.
You don't need actual physical landmarks, you just need a well-defined hypothetical procedure which would allow you to create such landmarks, like the hypothetical in SR of filling the entire universe with a network of rigid rulers at rest with respect to one another, and clocks at every ruler-marking. Once you have figured out what the laws of physics should look like in such a hypothetical system, in the real universe you can figure out approximately where objects would be relative to such a hypothetical system by using things like delays for radar signals to bounce back or the amount of light you receive from certain astrophysical standard candles.SW VandeCarr said:3. Exactly. A coordinate system needs fixed "landmarks". I'm not aware of any basis for such a system for entire universe in the traditional sense of space-time coordinates.
I don't understand what you mean here at all. How would "acceleration as a vector quantity" allow you to assign x,y,z,t coordinates to specific events?SW VandeCarr said:However, a coordinate system based on acceleration as a vector quantity might be possible. All inertial frames moving at the same velocity in the same direction (if that could be defined) would be defined by the same set of coordinates.