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The discussion revolves around proving the inequality involving the greatest common divisor (GCD) for natural numbers a and b, where b is greater than a. The inequality states that the sum of two fractions, involving the product of a and b divided by their GCD, and the product of (a+1) and (b+1) divided by their GCD, is greater than or equal to a specific expression involving the square root of the difference between b and a. Participants share various approaches to proving this inequality, highlighting different mathematical techniques and insights. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding GCD properties in relation to inequalities. The thread concludes with appreciation for contributions and alternative methods presented by participants.
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Prove, that for all natural numbers, $a$ and $b$, with $b > a$:

\[\frac{ab}{(a,b)}+\frac{(a+1)(b+1)}{(a+1,b+1)}\geq \frac{2ab}{\sqrt{b-a}}\]

where $(m,n)$ denotes the greatest common divisor of the natural numbers $m$ and $n$.
 
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lfdahl said:
Prove, that for all natural numbers, $a$ and $b$, with $b > a$:

\[\frac{ab}{(a,b)}+\frac{(a+1)(b+1)}{(a+1,b+1)}\geq \frac{2ab}{\sqrt{b-a}}\]

where $(m,n)$ denotes the greatest common divisor of the natural numbers $m$ and $n$.
let $A=\dfrac{ab}{(a,b)}+\dfrac{(a+1)(b+1)}{(a+1,b+1)}$
$B=\dfrac{2ab}{\sqrt{b-a}}$
using $a\times b=(a,b)\times [a,b]$
where $(a,b)$ denotes the greatest common divisor of the natural numbers $a$ and $b$
and $[a,b]$ denotes the least common multiple of the natural numbers $a$ and $b$
we have $min(A)=b+b+1\leq A=[a,b]+[a+1,b+1]\leq ab+(a+1)(b+1)$
$=2ab+a+b+1=max(A)$
$B\leq 2ab=max(B)$
if we can find a solution $min(A)\geq max(B)$
that is to find solution $2b+1\geq 2ab$ then we have the proof
in this case $a=1,b>a$
in general we may set $b-a=k>0$
to find $\sqrt k(2b+1)\geq 2ab$
we get $\sqrt k=a,or \,\, k=a^2$
 
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Albert said:
let $A=\dfrac{ab}{(a,b)}+\dfrac{(a+1)(b+1)}{(a+1,b+1)}$
$B=\dfrac{2ab}{\sqrt{b-a}}$
using $a\times b=(a,b)\times [a,b]$
where $(a,b)$ denotes the greatest common divisor of the natural numbers $a$ and $b$
and $[a,b]$ denotes the least common multiple of the natural numbers $a$ and $b$
we have $min(A)=b+b+1\leq A=[a,b]+[a+1,b+1]\leq ab+(a+1)(b+1)$
$=2ab+a+b+1=max(A)$
$B\leq 2ab=max(B)$
if we can find a solution $min(A)\geq max(B)$
that is to find solution $2b+1\geq 2ab$ then we have the proof
in this case $a=1,b>a$
in general we may set $b-a=k>0$
to find $\sqrt k(2b+1)\geq 2ab$
we get $\sqrt k=a,or \,\, k=a^2$

Thankyou, Albert for your approach to the problem. Well done.

Here´s another approach:

By applying the AM-GM inequality we get:
\[\frac{ab}{(a,b)}+\frac{(a+1)(b+1)}{(a+1,b+1)}\geq 2 \sqrt{\frac{a(a+1)b(b+1)}{(a,b)(a+1,b+1)}} > \frac{2ab}{\sqrt{(a,b)(a+1,b+1)}}\]
In order to complete the solution, we now show that:
\[b-a \ge (a,b)(a+1,b+1)\]
Indeed, $(a,b)$ and $(a+1,b+1)$ both divide $b-a$, since the greatest common divisor of two
numbers also divides their difference. On the other hand, $(a,b)$ and $(a+1,b+1)$ are coprimes.
Therefore the product $(a,b)(a+1,b+1)$ divides $b-a$. Hence the inequality is proved.
 
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