Can You Prove These Properties of Normal Subgroups in Group Theory?

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In summary, the Normal Subgroups Problem is a mathematical question that asks whether every subgroup of a given group is also a normal subgroup. It has implications in various areas of mathematics and has not been fully solved, but there have been some partial solutions and progress made in understanding it. A normal subgroup is a subgroup that is invariant under conjugation by any element of the larger group, and an example of this is the center of a group.
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Dear Everyone,

I am struck on a problem dealing with normal subgroups.

The problem is the following:

Let $G$ be a group, $H$ and $K$ be normal subgroups of $G$ with $H\ge K$.
  1. Prove that $H$ is a normal subgroup of $K$
  2. Prove that $K/H$ is a normal subgroup of $G/H$.
My attempted work:

Proof: We know that $H,K\ge G$.

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Carter B
 
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Cbarker1 said:
The problem is the following:

Let $G$ be a group, $H$ and $K$ be normal subgroups of $G$ with $H\ge K$.
  1. Prove that $H$ is a normal subgroup of $K$
  2. Prove that $K/H$ is a normal subgroup of $G/H$.
It looks as though $H\ge K$ should be $H\le K$. The rest of the question certainly implies that $H$ is contained in $K$.

Start by writing down the definition of a normal subgroup. Use that definition to say what it means for $H$ to be a normal subgroup of $G$. You should be able to deduce the result 1. from that.

For 2., again start by writing down some definitions. How is a quotient group defined? Then what conditions does $K/H$ have to satisfy in order to be a normal subgroup of $G/H$?
 
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Cbarker1 said:
Dear Everyone,

I am struck on a problem dealing with normal subgroups.

The problem is the following:

Let $G$ be a group, $H$ and $K$ be normal subgroups of $G$ with $H{\color{red}\le} K$.
  1. Prove that $H$ is a normal subgroup of $K$
  2. Prove that $K/H$ is a normal subgroup of $G/H$.
My attempted work:

Proof: We know that $H,K{\color{red}\le} G$.

Thanks
Carter B

Hi Carter.

Note the corrections in red.

1. To show that $H$ is a normal subgroup of $K$, you need to snow that $kHk^{-1}=H$ for all $k\in K$. But $H$ is a normal subgroup of $G$, i.e. $gHg^{-1}=H$ for all $g\in G$. Can you complete the proof?2. $K/H$ is the set of all cosets of $H$ in $K$, i.e. cosets of the form $kH$ for $k\in K$. An element of $G/H$ is a coset of the form $gH$ where $g\in G$. To show that $K/H$ is a normal subgroup of $G/H$, you need to show that
$$\left(gH\right)\left(kH\right)\left(gH\right)^{-1}$$
is in $K/H$. The above is equal to
$$\left(gkg^{-1}\right)H.$$
As $K$ is normal in $G$, what can you say about $gkg^{-1}$?
 

FAQ: Can You Prove These Properties of Normal Subgroups in Group Theory?

What is a normal subgroup?

A normal subgroup is a subgroup of a group that is invariant under conjugation by elements of the larger group. In other words, if a subgroup is normal, then it remains unchanged when its elements are multiplied on the left and right by elements of the larger group.

How do you determine if a subgroup is normal?

There are a few ways to determine if a subgroup is normal. One method is to check if the subgroup is invariant under conjugation, meaning that for any element in the larger group, the subgroup remains unchanged when multiplied by that element on both the left and right. Another method is to use the normal subgroup test, which states that a subgroup is normal if and only if it is the kernel of a homomorphism.

What is the significance of normal subgroups?

Normal subgroups are important because they provide a way to partition a group into smaller, simpler groups. They also play a crucial role in the structure of a group, as they are closely related to the group's quotient structure and can help determine the group's properties.

Can a group have more than one normal subgroup?

Yes, a group can have multiple normal subgroups. In fact, every group has at least two normal subgroups: the trivial subgroup containing only the identity element, and the entire group itself. Additionally, some groups may have an infinite number of normal subgroups.

How are normal subgroups used in group theory?

Normal subgroups are used in group theory to study the structure and properties of groups. They are particularly useful in understanding the quotient structure of a group, which is formed by the cosets of a normal subgroup. Normal subgroups also help classify different types of groups, such as abelian groups, simple groups, and solvable groups.

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