Can You Solve These Unique Algebraic Equations?

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In summary, the conversation discusses attempting to solve a system of equations with real number solutions. One participant suggests using clever guessing to find the solution, while another participant attempts to solve it algebraically using logarithms. However, their method is incorrect and they are unable to find the solution. The conversation ends with a thank you to all participants.
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Hi everybody,
Please I want to Solve the system:

3x-2y=19
y3-2x=19


x,y real number!

Thank you !
 
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I think clever guessing (and showing that there are not other solutions) is the quickest method. You can solve one of those equations for a single variable and put this into the other equation, but I don't think you cannot simply find solutions like that.
 
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It looks like 3,3 is the only solution.
 
  • #4
There is another solution near y=20.8216, x=13.1370.
 
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Please I want the steps to find it, because I'm stumbled in the last steps as follow:
x*Ln(3)-y*Ln(2)=Ln(19)
3*Ln(y)-x*Ln(2)=Ln(19)

x*Ln(3)-y*Ln(2) - 3*Ln(y)-x*Ln(2) = 0
x*Ln(3)+x*Ln(2) = y*Ln(2)+3*Ln(y) {each one equals Ln(19)}
x*Ln(3)+x*Ln(2) = y*Ln(2)+3*Ln(y) = Ln(19)
x*Ln(6) = y*Ln(2)+3*Ln(y) = Ln(19)

x = ln(19)/ln(6)
...

Here I'm stumbled.

Thank you for your response.
 
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There is no useful way to simplify ln(19)/ln(6). It is just some number - and it is wrong.

The first step does not work. ln(a-b) is not the same as ln(a) - ln(b).
The third step looks wrong, too (where you say "{each one equals Ln(19)}").
 
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naoufelabs said:
3x-2y=19
y3-2x=19

x,y real number!
The first equation below is wrong, so everything below it is also invalid.

You apparently took the natural log of both sides, like so:
ln(3x - 2y) = ln(19)

Then you "distributed" the ln operation like this:
ln(3x) - ln(2y) = ln(19)
This is the step that is incorrect. There is no property of logs in which ln(A + B) = ln(A) + ln(B).

naoufelabs said:
Please I want the steps to find it, because I'm stumbled in the last steps as follow:
x*Ln(3)-y*Ln(2)=Ln(19)
3*Ln(y)-x*Ln(2)=Ln(19)

x*Ln(3)-y*Ln(2) - 3*Ln(y)-x*Ln(2) = 0
x*Ln(3)+x*Ln(2) = y*Ln(2)+3*Ln(y) {each one equals Ln(19)}
x*Ln(3)+x*Ln(2) = y*Ln(2)+3*Ln(y) = Ln(19)
x*Ln(6) = y*Ln(2)+3*Ln(y) = Ln(19)

x = ln(19)/ln(6)
...

Here I'm stumbled.

Thank you for your response.
 
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Thank you all.
 

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