Canada: Liberals didnt flock here

[Pengwuino]

Let's get back on track instead of arguing with one another, otherwise this thread (which I think is a good one) will need to be locked.

Good idea. I can only get intelligable responses out of pattylou at this point.

 

[Smurf]

oh come on. please lock it anyway! pllleeeaaasseee

 

[Pengwuino]

oh come on. please lock it anyway! pllleeeaaasseee

As Ivan told me once, if you don't have anything to contribute, please don't post.

And no... this is not an insult or threat...

[size=-5]im just tryen to get the last post before the lock :D[/size]

 

[arildno]

You have still not admitted to the blatant fact that your very first statement in this thread was a lie.
That is, the sentence:
"Turns out the cry-babys that said they were going to leave to Canada if bush was elected were of course lieing as usual"

 

[pattylou]

Please do not try to bring up something that is obviously a double standard. Bush says somethign stupid and threads start popping up outa nowhere with no signs of "oh well, get over it, he doesn't really mean it".

We all need to mean what we say... it makes for a better world. And we also need to not have double standards where only 1 type of person is insulted for what he says while another type gets the forgive and forget treatment.

... And if my friend had been president you can bet her comment would have been in the news. I think it is reasonable to hold a different standard for statesmen than for podunk (but incredibly brilliant) people like us on the internet.

It's not a double standard. If Kerry were president, he'd be the one being raked over the coals. The fact that you have the majority everywhere you look, means that the quotes are going to come from your party.

Feel free to start a thread on Dean's recent (last month?) idiotic comments. I bet that would actually make a great thread. There's nothing to stop you!

It's great to mean what you say. It's also important to recognize that human beings are whimsical and emotional, no matter how much it may be suppressed, and a precipitous desire to flee the country can be later tempered by things like ill mothers and the trauma of uprooting your children and plopping them unceremoniously into a new culture.

Were you at all nervous on election day? Think you might have said a thing or two you wouldn't say under other circumstances? Honest question.

 

[pattylou]

Good idea. I can only get intelligable responses out of pattylou at this point.

That's practically a compliment. See? I told you you were brilliant.

 

[arildno]

Pengwuino:
You have still not admitted to the blatant fact that your very first statement in this thread was a lie.
That is, the sentence:
"Turns out the cry-babys that said they were going to leave to Canada if bush was elected were of course lieing as usual"

 

[Pengwuino]

Im sorry, let me go find some data to support the "fact" that they weren't lieing

*pours over thousands of articles showing huge immigration application increases*

Oh man your so right, Americans are pouring into Canada since Bush's re-election!

*end sarcasm*

 

[arildno]

Now, you are obfuscating:
You KNOW it is untrue that they were "lying as usual".
That makes you into a liar.

 

[Pengwuino]

I do? Well the Canadian immigration agency in charge of this sure doesn't think I am a liar since i am repeating what they are saying. Are you saying the Canadian government is a lieing government?

 

[arildno]

I do? Well the Canadian immigration agency in charge of this sure doesn't think I am a liar since i am repeating what they are saying. Are you saying the Canadian government is a lieing government?

You are a liar, and you are still obfuscating.
I am not surprised; it fits your personality perfectly.

 

[Pengwuino]

So the Canadian government is lieing... sure... Please refrain from posting unless you have something factual and useful to say.

 

[arildno]

So the Canadian government is lieing... sure... Please refrain from posting unless you have something factual and useful to say.

1) First of all, learn how to write English.
2) Secondly, stop obfuscating.
3) Admit that you started out this thread with a blatant lie.
4) You are a disgrace to your nation, because you are an inveterate liar and obfuscator

 

[Pengwuino]

You are a disgrace to your nation and to mankind. You are refusing to provide any factual information. You have no proof that what I say is a lie. All you have is your own hateful opinions of everything. Please refrain from posting unless you have some factual backing to what you say.

 

[arildno]

You are a disgrace to your nation and to mankind. You are refusing to provide any factual information. You have no proof that what I say is a lie. All you have is your own hateful opinions of everything. Please refrain from posting unless you have some factual backing to what you say.

You were implying that liberals were lying AS USUAL. That is false, they do not usually lie. Implying that they are is what makes you into an actual liar.

 

[rachmaninoff]

Can someone please lock this thread already? It's nothing more than back-and-forth ad-hominems between Penguino and arildno, in four pages I don't think I've seen a single debatable issue or refutable (factual) point show up.

 

[arildno]

Can someone please lock this thread already? It's nothing more than back-and-forth ad-hominems between Penguino and arildno, in four pages I don't think I've seen a single debatable issue or refutable (factual) point show up.

I have already shown that Pengwuino's first statement is a false insinuation (he is the one who needs to back up the claim that liberals usually lie).
He refuses to admit this. That shows what type of person he is.

 

[Pengwuino]

I have already shown that Pengwuino's first statement is a false insinuation.
He refuses to admit this. That shows what type of person he is.

Where did you show this? All i saw was you calling all conservatives disgusting people

 

[rachmaninoff]

I have already shown that Pengwuino's first statement is a false insinuation.
is.

Yes, it was quite obvious what the opening post was, so why not just end this thread and let it stand as it is? There's nothing to prove here.

 

[Pengwuino]

Yes, it was quite obvious what the opening post was, so why not just end this thread and let it stand as it is? There's nothing to prove here.

Although there's no proof that its false... it must be false because someone doesn't agree withi t.

 

[arildno]

Where did you show this? All i saw was you calling all conservatives disgusting people

Again you are lying, Pengwuino:
"All i saw was you calling all conservatives disgusting people"
Nope. You responded to my very first post, so you certainly saw that one as well, didn't you?
So stop lying here.

Your first statement in the thread insinuates that liberals (or at least those liberals who said they were to leave) USUALLY lie.
This is a false insinuation.

 

[Pengwuino]

Well most over-reactions brought out by liberals are usually lies so unless you can prove that they have been telling the truth all this time, you should refrain from posting here. You can also appologize for lieing and disgracing your nation by calling an entire group of people "Disgusting". So please, stop lieing, you are giving the left a bad name.

 

[arildno]

Well most over-reactions brought out by liberals are usually lies

1) Prove that.
2) If so, are most of the over-reactions of right-wingers also mostly lies?
3) Are liberals more prone to over-reactions than right-wingers?
4) Do liberals over-react most of their time?
5)If they don't, do they still lie on a usual basis?

 

[Pengwuino]

Maybe they do! But of course, the purpose of this thread is to show that the liberals who said they were going to leave are cry-babies because they chose to not honor their word. Now, unless your going to somehow prove conservatives are disgusting human beings, you should, like i keep saying, refrain from insulting everyone.

You obviously can't be arguing simantics here or hte proper placement of words because wow, I'll point to half of this particular part of the forum and ask why you haven't gone in and made sure every opinion was correct and fully factual.

 

[arildno]

What is it that "Maybe they do!"?

You are clinging to words spoken in an already deleted post, Pengwuino.
As I've said before, this shows very clearly what type of individual you are.

 

[arildno]

You obviously can't be arguing simantics here or hte proper placement of words because wow, I'll point to half of this particular part of the forum and ask why you haven't gone in and made sure every opinion was correct and fully factual.

You are making poisonous insinuations against a vast group of individuals AND CHOOSE NOT TO RETRACT THEM!
That is quite different from other posters, including myself.

 

[Pengwuino]

You didn't retract it, you just ignored it and said that people should be allowed to say whatever they want. Of course, only conservatives can be attacked for what they say right? What a double standard...

How bout this, you go into every thread in the political forum and make sure no one said any "poisonous insinuations" and THEN i'll take mine back. This is only fair unless you pose some sort of double standards against a group of people...

 

[arildno]

You didn't retract it, you just ignored it and said that people should be allowed to say whatever they want. Of course, only conservatives can be attacked for what they say right? What a double standard...

I retracted it by deleting it. Stop lying and insinuating, Pengwuino.

 

[Evo]

CHILDREN! STOP!

How did this thread get so out of control in one hour?

Do I need to put bells around your necks so I can hear when you start butting heads?