Canonical Transformation/Poisson Brackets

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The discussion centers on demonstrating the relationship [q_j, p_k] = δ_{jk} as part of an exercise from Shankar's quantum mechanics textbook. The initial attempt involves summation notation but encounters confusion regarding the choice of summation indices. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly managing indices in the Poisson bracket formulation to avoid errors. A suggestion is made to start from a corrected expression that clarifies the relationships between the variables involved. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for careful notation and understanding of index roles in the context of canonical transformations.
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Homework Statement


I am trying to show that [q_j, p_k] = \delta_{jk} (this is part of exercise 2.7.3 from Shankar's QM). I'm having difficulties with the summation notation.

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[q_j, p_k] = \sum_{k} (\frac{\partial q_j}{\partial q_k} \frac{\partial p_k}{\partial p_k} - \frac{\partial q_j}{\partial p_k} \frac{\partial p_j}{\partial q_k} = \sum_{k} - \delta_{jk} = \delta_{jk} ??
I'm not so confident on my choice of 'k' as the summation variable. It seems to me the summation should not disappear like that. If I am interpreting this correctly, the negative sign isn't such a big deal... Can anyone check my work, I don't think I am doing it correctly
 
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Yes, you have to be careful about that. Left, the p_k carries an index k. That means you shouldn't use k as a summation dummy index on the right hand side. Try working it out starting from the following:

[q_j,p_k] = \sum_n \left( \frac{\partial q_j}{\partial q_n}\frac{\partial p_k}{\partial p_n} - \frac{\partial q_j}{\partial p_n}\frac{\partial p_k}{\partial q_n}\right)

EDIT: mixed up the indices myself...
 
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There is more amiss here. The indices of the numerators are wrong as well. (we're talking about Poisson brackets here right?)

<br /> [q_j,p_k]=\sum_n \left( \frac{\partial q_j}{\partial q_n}\frac{\partial p_k}{\partial p_n} - \frac{\partial q_j}{\partial p_n}\frac{\partial p_k}{\partial q_n}\right)<br />
 

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