Center of mass of hemisphere: substitution of z=rcos(θ)?

In summary, the use of the substitution z=rcos(theta) was necessary in order to carry out the integration in spherical coordinates and obtain the correct solution for the center of mass of a solid uniform hemisphere. Without this substitution, the answer would be incorrect and the use of symmetry would not simplify the problem as intended.
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I am trying to understand a substitution used to solve for the center of mass of a solid uniform hemisphere as in this post: https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...in-spherical-coordinates.650663/#post-4151797[1]

I completely understand the math and the correct solution. However, what I don't understand is why the substitution z=rcos(theta) was necessary to obtain the result. If you do not include the cosine term, you find that R_cm = 3R/4, but if you do include it, you find that Z_cm = 3R/8. So we have R_cm = 2*Z_cm. It should be the case that R_cm = Z_cm, since both are defined from the same origin (the center of the hemisphere base), right? So they should be the same vector. I suspect my error is in this assumption, but I would like some help here.

The use of a symmetry should help simplify a problem, but it appears that in this case, it changes the answer entirely. If we are agnostic about the axis of symmetry in an integral, why wouldn't we still get the correct answer without using z=rcos(theta)?

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Homework Statement



I am trying to understand a substitution used to solve for the center of mass of a solid uniform hemisphere as in this post: https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...in-spherical-coordinates.650663/#post-4151797[1]

I completely understand the math and the correct solution. However, what I don't understand is why the substitution z=rcos(theta) was necessary to obtain the result.

Well, the OP in that other thread was using spherical coordinates in his integration to find Cm, so any z variables must be converted to their equivalents in the spherical coordinate system in order to carry out the integration.

It's like trying to find ∫ y dx. Things go a lot smoother if you know what an equivalent expression for y(x) is in terms of x.
 

FAQ: Center of mass of hemisphere: substitution of z=rcos(θ)?

What is the center of mass of a hemisphere?

The center of mass of a hemisphere is the point at which the hemisphere can be balanced on a support without any rotation occurring.

How is the center of mass of a hemisphere determined?

The center of mass of a hemisphere can be determined by finding the average position of all the mass in the hemisphere. This can be calculated using the formula: x = (1/2)r and z = (3/8)r, where r is the radius of the hemisphere.

What is the substitution of z=rcos(θ) used for in finding the center of mass of a hemisphere?

The substitution of z=rcos(θ) is used to simplify the calculation of the center of mass of a hemisphere. It allows us to convert a triple integral into a double integral, making the calculation more manageable.

Why is z=rcos(θ) used instead of the original coordinate system?

The original coordinate system, which uses x, y, and z coordinates, can be complex and difficult to integrate. The substitution of z=rcos(θ) simplifies the calculation and makes it easier to find the center of mass of a hemisphere.

Can the substitution of z=rcos(θ) be used for other shapes besides a hemisphere?

Yes, the substitution of z=rcos(θ) can be used for any shape that has a circular cross-section. It is commonly used for calculating the center of mass of objects like cones, cylinders, and spheres.

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