Changing integration limits from [0,a] to [0, inf)

In summary, you cannot change the limits of an integral from a to infinity by substituting x for tan(\frac{\pi x}{2a}).
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PerUlven
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Homework Statement
This isn't really homework, but a question I came upon when doing my homework.

How can I go from an integral with limits 0 and a:

[itex]
\int_0^a f(x) dx
[/itex]

to something with limits 0 and [itex]\infty[/itex] (still giving the same answer)

[itex]
c\int_0^\infty f(u) du
[/itex]

, where [itex]c[/itex] is some kind of constant.

The attempt at a solution
I've tried substituting [itex]x[/itex] with [itex]tan(\frac{\pi x}{2a})[/itex], since this seems to give the correct limits, but I don't know if it makes any sense, and what to do next (how to find c for example).
 
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  • #2
PerUlven said:
Homework Statement
This isn't really homework, but a question I came upon when doing my homework.

How can I go from an integral with limits 0 and a:

[itex]
\int_0^a f(x) dx
[/itex]

to something with limits 0 and [itex]\infty[/itex] (still giving the same answer)

[itex]
c\int_0^\infty f(u) du
[/itex]

, where [itex]c[/itex] is some kind of constant.

The attempt at a solution
I've tried substituting [itex]x[/itex] with [itex]tan(\frac{\pi x}{2a})[/itex], since this seems to give the correct limits, but I don't know if it makes any sense, and what to do next (how to find c for example).

You can't, in general. The integral of f(x) for 0 ≤ x ≤ a depends only on the value of f(x) for x between 0 and a, while the integral of f(u) for 0 ≤ u < ∞ depends on the values of f(u) for all positive values of u, including values u > a. The behaviour of f on [0,a] may be essentially unrealated to the behaviour on [a,∞).

Now, of course, if both integrals are finite, you can get c by dividing one by the other, but that is trivial and probably not what you had in mind. You cannot do that at all if the integral over [0,a] is finite while that over [0,∞) is infinite.

RGV
 
  • #3
I think it is not possible to change limits from some value to infinity for an unkown function... I can be wrong but I never saw any such thing before
 
  • #4
PerUlven said:
Homework Statement
This isn't really homework, but a question I came upon when doing my homework.

How can I go from an integral with limits 0 and a:

[itex]
\int_0^a f(x) dx
[/itex]

to something with limits 0 and [itex]\infty[/itex] (still giving the same answer)

[itex]
c\int_0^\infty f(u) du
[/itex]

, where [itex]c[/itex] is some kind of constant.

The attempt at a solution
I've tried substituting [itex]x[/itex] with [itex]\tan(\frac{\pi x}{2a})[/itex], since this seems to give the correct limits, but I don't know if it makes any sense, and what to do next (how to find c for example).

If you make the substitution, [itex]\displaystyle u=\tan\left(\frac{\pi x}{2a}\right)\,,[/itex] then [itex]\displaystyle x=\frac{2a}{\pi }\tan^{-1}(u)\,,[/itex] so that [itex]\displaystyle dx=\frac{2a}{\pi }\frac{1}{1+u^2}du\ .[/itex]

This gives: [itex]\displaystyle \int_0^a f(x)\,dx
=\frac{2a}{\pi }\int_0^{\infty} f\left(\frac{2a}{\pi }\tan^{-1}(u)\right)\frac{1}{1+u^2}du\,,[/itex] which is probably not what you wanted.
 
  • #5
Thanks a lot guys. This is what happens when I sit and wonder about mathematics and physics into the night!
 

FAQ: Changing integration limits from [0,a] to [0, inf)

Why would someone want to change the integration limits from [0,a] to [0, inf)?

There are several reasons why someone may choose to change the integration limits from [0,a] to [0, inf). One common reason is that the function being integrated may not have a finite upper limit, meaning it continues to infinity. Another reason could be to simplify the integration process and make it more manageable.

2. How does changing the integration limits affect the value of the integral?

Changing the integration limits does not affect the value of the integral, as long as the function being integrated is continuous and does not have any infinite or discontinuous points between the original and new limits. The value of the integral will remain the same regardless of the limits as long as the same function is being integrated.

3. Can changing the integration limits affect the convergence of the integral?

Yes, changing the integration limits can affect the convergence of the integral. If the original limits were finite and the new limits go to infinity, the integral may no longer converge. This is because the function may approach infinity as the limit goes to infinity, making the integral diverge.

4. What is the significance of choosing [0, inf) as the new integration limits?

The choice of [0, inf) as the new integration limits is significant because it represents an infinite interval. This allows for the integration of functions that do not have a finite upper limit and also simplifies the integration process by removing the need for substitution or other methods.

5. Are there any limitations to using [0, inf) as the new integration limits?

Yes, there are limitations to using [0, inf) as the new integration limits. As mentioned before, if the function being integrated approaches infinity as the limit goes to infinity, then the integral will not converge. Additionally, certain functions may require more complex methods of integration even with infinite limits. It is important to consider the properties of the function before changing the integration limits.

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