Changing variables for defining a region

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In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a variables transformation and determining the image of a triangle on a different plane. The participant attempted to solve the problem, but their answer did not match the given solution. They then asked for help in understanding why their solution was incorrect. Another participant provided a solution by transforming the given conditions and using a drawing to determine the upper boundary for the variable y.
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I was trying to do this exercise but my answer doesn't match with the solution and I'm wondering why:

> Consider the variables transformation defined by $x=2u+v$ and $y=u^2-v$. Being $T$ the triangle with vertices $(0,0)$, $(1,0)$, $(0,2)$ on plan $uv$ determine the image of $T$ on plan $xy$ by the variables transformation.

So what I did was take the vertices and apply the the transformation obtaining $(0,0)$ $(2,1)$ and $(2,-2)$.

Then I represented then in the plane $xy$ and I formed the triangle.

Then I defined my conditions:

- $0<x<2$

- $-x<y<\frac{x}{2}$

However the solutions say the proper answer for $y$ would be:

- $-x<y<\frac{x^2}{4}$

Ok I understand that this might be because of the square value in the change of variables... But I don't know how to get there, can someone help me?
 
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GrangerObliviat said:
I was trying to do this exercise but my answer doesn't match with the solution and I'm wondering why:

> Consider the variables transformation defined by $x=2u+v$ and $y=u^2-v$. Being $T$ the triangle with vertices $(0,0)$, $(1,0)$, $(0,2)$ on plan $uv$ determine the image of $T$ on plan $xy$ by the variables transformation.

So what I did was take the vertices and apply the the transformation obtaining $(0,0)$ $(2,1)$ and $(2,-2)$.

Then I represented then in the plane $xy$ and I formed the triangle.

Then I defined my conditions:

- $0<x<2$

- $-x<y<\frac{x}{2}$

However the solutions say the proper answer for $y$ would be:

- $-x<y<\frac{x^2}{4}$

Ok I understand that this might be because of the square value in the change of variables... But I don't know how to get there, can someone help me?

Hi GrangerObliviat! Welcome to MHB! ;)

Did you make a drawing?

The triangle has 3 edges, one of which is given by:
\begin{cases}
0<u<1 \\
v = 0
\end{cases}
Transforming to (x,y), we get:
$$\begin{cases}
x=2u+v \\
y=u^2-v \\
0<u<1 \\
v = 0
\end{cases} \Rightarrow
\begin{cases}
x=2u \\
y=u^2 \\
0<u<1 \\
\end{cases}\Rightarrow
\begin{cases}
u=\frac 12 x \\
y=(\frac 12 x)^2 \\
0<\frac 12 x<1 \\
\end{cases}\Rightarrow
\begin{cases}
y=\frac {x^2}4 \\
0< x<2 \\
\end{cases}$$
From a drawing we can tell that means that $y$ has an upper boundary of $\frac {x^2}4$.
 
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I like Serena said:
Hi GrangerObliviat! Welcome to MHB! ;)

Did you make a drawing?

The triangle has 3 edges, one of which is given by:
\begin{cases}
0<u<1 \\
v = 0
\end{cases}
Transforming to (x,y), we get:
$$\begin{cases}
x=2u+v \\
y=u^2-v \\
0<u<1 \\
v = 0
\end{cases} \Rightarrow
\begin{cases}
x=2u \\
y=u^2 \\
0<u<1 \\
\end{cases}\Rightarrow
\begin{cases}
u=\frac 12 x \\
y=(\frac 12 x)^2 \\
0<\frac 12 x<1 \\
\end{cases}\Rightarrow
\begin{cases}
y=\frac {x^2}4 \\
0< x<2 \\
\end{cases}$$
From a drawing we can tell that means that $y$ has an upper boundary of $\frac {x^2}4$.

Thank you so much!
I didn't try to find the boundaries for u and v.
 

FAQ: Changing variables for defining a region

What is the purpose of changing variables when defining a region?

The purpose of changing variables is to better understand the characteristics and boundaries of a region. By manipulating different variables, scientists can observe how they affect the region and gain insight into its properties.

How do variables impact the definition of a region?

Variables can greatly impact the definition of a region by changing its size, shape, and characteristics. For example, changing the temperature or precipitation levels can alter the boundaries of a region and impact the types of flora and fauna that can thrive there.

What are some common variables used in defining a region?

Some common variables used in defining a region include physical factors such as climate, topography, and geology, as well as human factors such as population density, cultural practices, and economic activity.

How do scientists determine which variables to change when defining a region?

Scientists determine which variables to change based on their research objectives and the specific characteristics they are studying. They may also consider the availability of data and the feasibility of manipulating certain variables in their experiments.

Why is it important to consider multiple variables when defining a region?

Considering multiple variables allows for a more comprehensive understanding of a region and its complexities. It also helps to account for the interdependence of different factors and how they can influence each other in shaping the characteristics of a region.

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