Circuit analysis - very nearly finished

In summary: VIn summary, the conversation revolves around finding the value of N(1,2,3) in an attached circuit. The author has found i(1,2,3,4) using mesh analysis and is now having trouble finding N_2 and N_3. Another individual suggests redrawing the circuit and using voltage dividers to find the correct values for N_2 and N_3. The author corrects their mistake and finds the correct value for N_2 to be 4.83V.
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Homework Statement



Find the value of N(1,2,3) in attached circuit

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I've found i(1,2,3,4) from mesh analysis as:
[tex] i_1=1.44159mA,i_2=0.919142mA,i_3=0.396691mA,i_4=-0.08609047mA [/tex]

now I am having trouble finding N_2 and N_3 from this.

Thanks for any help.
 

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Don't let the schematic confuse you. It might help to redraw the circuit as below. Redrawing in this manner does not affect the nodes, since the voltage is the same across a wire. I assume that the four mesh currents you found are from redrawing as I did below. The voltage at Node 2 is the voltage across R5, which is, based on my diagram, (I3-I4)R5. The voltage at Node 3 is a simple voltage divider, and if we draw a path from ground to that node, we get: 5V + I4*R7 = Voltage at Node 3.
 

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I did see that, what I have for N_2 is N_2=N_1-(1000i_3) but it doesn't work. I know my currents are right because I have checked in multisim. N_2 should equal 4.81V but I can't get this.

Thanks
 
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Sorry, I edited my post. Reread what I had done. If you do what I said for Node 2 you will get the right answer:

Voltage at Node 2 = (I3-I4)R5 = (0.396691mA--0.08609047mA)*10000 = 4.83V

A bit off, perhaps a rounding error, but I believe this is correct. Just remember, when you are trying to find those node voltages, you must subtract the mesh currents as I did, i.e. I3-I4, since the current going down that branch is indeed I3-I4 based on the way I redrew the schematic. The same process follows for Node 3.
 
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Thanks for your help Maru
 
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I just did N_2 and it doesn't work, it gives me 48.27V?
 
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sorry yes it does
 

FAQ: Circuit analysis - very nearly finished

What is circuit analysis?

Circuit analysis is the process of studying and understanding the behavior of electrical circuits. It involves using mathematical equations and principles to analyze the flow of electrical current and voltage in a circuit. This helps in designing and troubleshooting circuits to ensure their proper functioning.

What are the different methods used for circuit analysis?

There are several methods used for circuit analysis, including nodal analysis, mesh analysis, and superposition. Nodal analysis involves analyzing the voltage at different nodes or connection points in a circuit. Mesh analysis involves analyzing the current in different loops of a circuit. Superposition involves breaking down a complex circuit into simpler parts and analyzing them separately.

How do you calculate the current and voltage in a circuit?

The current in a circuit can be calculated using Ohm's law, which states that current (I) is equal to voltage (V) divided by resistance (R), or I = V/R. The voltage in a circuit can be calculated using Kirchhoff's voltage law (KVL) and Kirchhoff's current law (KCL), which state that the sum of voltages around a closed loop is equal to 0 (KVL) and the sum of currents entering and leaving a node is equal to 0 (KCL).

What is the purpose of circuit analysis in real-life applications?

Circuit analysis is essential in real-life applications because it helps in designing and troubleshooting electrical circuits used in various electronic devices. It ensures the proper functioning and safety of these devices by predicting and controlling the flow of electricity. Circuit analysis is also used in the design of power systems, communication systems, and other electronic equipment.

What are some common challenges in circuit analysis?

Some common challenges in circuit analysis include dealing with non-linear components, complex circuits with multiple loops and nodes, and the presence of noise and other disturbances. It can also be challenging to determine the most suitable method for a particular circuit and to accurately measure and account for all sources of resistance and voltage in a circuit.

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