Circular Motion: 2-step System (very confusing)

In summary, the black stopper has a mass of 58.7 grams, while the other object has a mass of . The video has a frame rate of 30 fps, and it takes 18 frames for the black stopper to complete one circle. The radius of the black stopper is 30 cm, and the force exerted by the black stopper is Fg(of mass that's spinning)^2 + Ftx(which is Fc)^2 = mg^2.
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1. http://paer.rutgers.edu/PT3/experiment.php?topicid=5&exptid=177
The three black stoppers that are whirling in a circle have a combined mass of 58.7g. The length of man's arm from elbow to wrist is about 30 cm.

2. Find the mass of the other object that is tied at the bottom.

3. I solved for time by first counting the number of frames it takes to complete a full circle, which was approximately 18. Then since the video is 30 frames per second, I set up a proportion (18/30 = t/1), where t=time. I then assumed that the radius was 30 cm. which I am very unsure on. I plugged in radius into C=2(pie)(r) to solve for the circumference. I divided the circumference by the time to find velocity (does this even make sense?) Then since F=m(v2/r), I plugged in mass (58.7), velocity, and radius to solve for force. I was also able to figure out acceleration since F = ma, but honestly I'm not sure if my steps so far are correct. And how would I go about solving the mass of the other object tied at the bottom?
 
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Well the mass of the other object on the bottom is the Ft and Ftx is what is proving the centripetal force. So if you have T and you have r and m you can caluclate Fc .

Now for the small mass draw its Force diagram

Fg is point down.
Fty is pointing up same magnitude of Fg
Ftx is the Fc (towards center)
and Ft is diagonal and it is equal to Fgof mass on bottom

So if you get Fc which is Ftx then you can use pythagorus Fg(of mass that's spinning)^2 + Ftx(which is Fc)^2 = mg^2
 
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I'm sort of unsure on what you mean by Ftx and Fty and then using the pythagorus on Fg.

Do you think it's possible for you to paste a diagram? That would be amazing
 
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I attached a diagram made in word.
 

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O thanks alot! I'm waiting for it to be approved by the admins...
 

FAQ: Circular Motion: 2-step System (very confusing)

What is circular motion?

Circular motion refers to the movement of an object in a circular path around a fixed point.

What is a 2-step system in circular motion?

A 2-step system in circular motion refers to a system where the object moves in a circular path and undergoes two different types of motion within that path, such as both rotation and revolution.

Why is the 2-step system in circular motion confusing?

The 2-step system in circular motion can be confusing because it involves two different types of motion occurring simultaneously, which can be difficult to visualize and understand.

What are some real-life examples of circular motion with a 2-step system?

A spinning top and a Ferris wheel are both examples of circular motion with a 2-step system. The top spins on its own axis while also rotating around a central point, and the Ferris wheel rotates around a central axis while also moving in a circular path.

How can I calculate the forces involved in a 2-step system in circular motion?

To calculate the forces involved in a 2-step system in circular motion, you will need to know the mass of the object, the radius of the circular path, and the angular velocity of the object. From there, you can use equations such as Newton's second law and centripetal force to determine the forces at play.

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