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Ackbach
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Firstly, and most importantly: I am not interested in getting into a debate about climate change in this thread. If you try to engage in debate with me in this thread, I will immediately abuse my administrative powers and physically delete your post! (Devil)
Secondly, I want to make it clear that my views here are by no means representative of MHB. These are my personal views.
Bias Admission: I am currently a robust disbeliever in catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. I also firmly believe in the conservation of the environment. I would not call myself an environmentalist, but a conservationist. Politically, I would call myself laissez-faire. I suppose you could call me a conservative, but that label has lost a lot of its value for me. Suffice it to say that I am in favor of self-governance, and opposed to excessive federal or even state governance such as exists in the United States at the moment. I am definitely not an anarchist, nor would I call myself a libertarian.
That's my bias, cheerfully admitted.
I am wanting to raise a question about bias amongst climate scientists. It is a myth that scientists are unbiased, always objectively correct, demi-gods-in-white-lab-coats. As my Field Theory professor at Virginia Tech once said, "People do science." That's the whole reason behind double-blind (and even triple-blind!) controlled studies, as well as the requirement for high levels of certainty before declaring a discovery. And, as ClimateGate taught us, climate change scientists are not immune from this bias.
It is also a myth that journalists are unbiased. At the moment, I find scientific journalism so unreliable as to be completely worthless. If I'm interested in doing research, I've abandoned Google search in favor of Google Scholar search, because only the original research articles (as seriously flawed as even some of those are!) are worth anything.
So now, in good statistical fashion, I define my population: all climate change scientists. Other definitions: liberal political view means that the holder of this view is in favor of government solutions to problems, instead of individual solutions to problems. That is, if there is a social problem, it is the government's job to fix it. Conservative political view means the opposite: the holder of this view is in favor of individual solutions to problems instead of government solutions to problems. Liberals are generally in favor of more legislation, conservatives less.
It is part of my bias, again, cheerfully admitted, to suspect some, though by no means all, liberals of simply wanting to control other peoples' lives through regulation. I mention this, because this is the primary motivation in my mind for asking the question I'm asking.
In climate change, it seems to me, there are several distinct, but related questions:
I want to know the correlation, amongst climate change scientists, between political views and views on climate change (answers to the three questions immediately above).
So my question to you, dear MHB member, is this: do you know some good research articles addressing this question? As you may have noticed from above, I'm not the least bit interested in the media's take on this question. I'm also not the least bit interested in the public's opinion on climate change. Let me reiterate: I am not interested in getting into a debate about climate change in this thread. I am interested in some scholarly research into possible bias amongst climate change scientists.
Thanks for reading!
Secondly, I want to make it clear that my views here are by no means representative of MHB. These are my personal views.
Bias Admission: I am currently a robust disbeliever in catastrophic anthropogenic global warming. I also firmly believe in the conservation of the environment. I would not call myself an environmentalist, but a conservationist. Politically, I would call myself laissez-faire. I suppose you could call me a conservative, but that label has lost a lot of its value for me. Suffice it to say that I am in favor of self-governance, and opposed to excessive federal or even state governance such as exists in the United States at the moment. I am definitely not an anarchist, nor would I call myself a libertarian.
That's my bias, cheerfully admitted.
I am wanting to raise a question about bias amongst climate scientists. It is a myth that scientists are unbiased, always objectively correct, demi-gods-in-white-lab-coats. As my Field Theory professor at Virginia Tech once said, "People do science." That's the whole reason behind double-blind (and even triple-blind!) controlled studies, as well as the requirement for high levels of certainty before declaring a discovery. And, as ClimateGate taught us, climate change scientists are not immune from this bias.
It is also a myth that journalists are unbiased. At the moment, I find scientific journalism so unreliable as to be completely worthless. If I'm interested in doing research, I've abandoned Google search in favor of Google Scholar search, because only the original research articles (as seriously flawed as even some of those are!) are worth anything.
So now, in good statistical fashion, I define my population: all climate change scientists. Other definitions: liberal political view means that the holder of this view is in favor of government solutions to problems, instead of individual solutions to problems. That is, if there is a social problem, it is the government's job to fix it. Conservative political view means the opposite: the holder of this view is in favor of individual solutions to problems instead of government solutions to problems. Liberals are generally in favor of more legislation, conservatives less.
It is part of my bias, again, cheerfully admitted, to suspect some, though by no means all, liberals of simply wanting to control other peoples' lives through regulation. I mention this, because this is the primary motivation in my mind for asking the question I'm asking.
In climate change, it seems to me, there are several distinct, but related questions:
- Is the Earth warming?
- If the Earth is warming, is this catastrophic, or within the normal range?
- If the Earth is catastrophically warming, is this warming anthropogenic or not?
I want to know the correlation, amongst climate change scientists, between political views and views on climate change (answers to the three questions immediately above).
So my question to you, dear MHB member, is this: do you know some good research articles addressing this question? As you may have noticed from above, I'm not the least bit interested in the media's take on this question. I'm also not the least bit interested in the public's opinion on climate change. Let me reiterate: I am not interested in getting into a debate about climate change in this thread. I am interested in some scholarly research into possible bias amongst climate change scientists.
Thanks for reading!