Closed or open question about the Extended Real line

In summary, the conversation discusses whether a set including plus or minus infinity on the extended real line is open or closed in regards to measure in analysis. The link provided in Section 6 - Extended Reals states that a set may be neither open nor closed, or both at the same time. This leads to the conclusion that the set in question may be open, but further investigation is needed to determine its exact nature.
  • #1
Fractal20
74
1
This is just a quick question about sets that include plus or minus infinity on the extended real line. I am wondering about this in regards to measure in analysis so specifically, is [-∞,a) open or closed? I hadn't seen the extended reals before this class and we really didn't spend anytime discussing them. I want to say it is open since it certainly does not have a boundary point on the a) side and it seems like there isn't anything to approach the boundary on the [-∞. Moreover, it's complement [a,∞] looks suspiciously like a closed set... Any verification on these musings? Thanks
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
This link should help. Go to Section 6 - Extended Reals, see the 2nd paragraph.

http://math.rice.edu/~semmes/math443.pdf

Also, keep in mind that a set may be neither open nor closed. It might be interesting to find a subset of the extended reals that is neither open nor closed to see how the definitions/requirements given may fail.
 
Last edited:
  • #3
So then it's not open since it isn't open in respect to both τ+ and τ-?
 
  • #4
Fractal20 said:
So then it's not open since it isn't open in respect to both τ+ and τ-?
How do you come to that conclusion?
It is wrong, unless you use some non-standard topology.

Ocifer said:
Also, keep in mind that a set may be neither open nor closed.
Or both at the same time.
 
  • #5
Ah, well now I think it is open. I misunderstood the bit about τ+- in the link. Am I wrong?
 

FAQ: Closed or open question about the Extended Real line

What is the Extended Real Line?

The Extended Real Line is a mathematical concept that extends the traditional real number line to include two additional points, positive and negative infinity. These points are denoted as +∞ and -∞, respectively, and represent values that are infinitely large or small.

What is the purpose of extending the real line?

The Extended Real Line is used to provide a complete and continuous representation of real numbers, allowing for the inclusion of infinite values. This is particularly useful in areas of mathematics such as calculus and analysis, where infinite values are often encountered.

How are closed and open intervals defined on the Extended Real Line?

A closed interval on the Extended Real Line is defined as a set of numbers that includes both its endpoints, while an open interval includes all numbers between its endpoints but not the endpoints themselves. For example, the closed interval [1,3] on the Extended Real Line includes the points 1 and 3, while the open interval (1,3) includes all numbers between 1 and 3 but not 1 or 3.

Can we perform arithmetic operations on infinity on the Extended Real Line?

No, arithmetic operations on infinity are undefined on the Extended Real Line. Infinity is not a number, but rather a concept representing an unbounded value. However, certain mathematical operations, such as limits, can be applied to infinity in a meaningful way.

Are there any practical applications of the Extended Real Line?

Yes, the Extended Real Line has practical applications in various fields such as physics, engineering, and economics. For example, it is used to represent infinite values in thermodynamics and electrical engineering, and in economics it is used to model infinite growth or decline in markets.

Back
Top