Closed subset of R^n has an element of minimal norm

In summary, the conversation discusses two parts of a problem involving a normed vector space. The first part involves showing that the function f(x)=||x|| is a Lipschitz function and uniformly continuous on the vector space. The second part involves showing that a closed nonempty subset F of the vector space contains an element of minimum norm. The hint suggests using a compact subset of F to solve this part, but the suitable choice of this compact subset is not clear. The conversation also discusses the idea of using closed balls of different radii to find the element of minimum norm in F.
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Homework Statement


a) Let V be a normed vector space. Then show that (by the triangle inequality) the function f(x)=||x|| is a Lipschitz function from V into [0,∞). In particular, f is uniformly continuous on V.

b) Show that a closed subset F of contains an element of minimal norm, that is, there is an x E F such that ||x||≤||y|| for all y E F. (here ||x|| refers to the usual Euclidean norm).
(hint: F may not be compact, so work on a suitable compact subset of F.)


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The Attempt at a Solution


I proved part a, but I really have no idea how to do part b. Why do we need compactness, and what is the suitable compact subset of F?

I hope someone can help me out! Thank you!
 
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just ideas that will need some working but hope they help

you want to take a compact subset of F, is a closed an bounded subset enough to be compact (it is in Rn - Hiene Borel)?

you could pick any element of F, then use it to set your bound, and show elements outside the bounded set have a larger norm

now you have a compact subset of a metric space and i seem to remember something along the lines of a continuous real valued function always takes a maximal & minimal value on a compact set...
 
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If we intersect F with a compact set K, will F intersect K stilll be compact? Why or why not?
Also, should we choose K to be very small? How can we formalize this choice of K? (i.e. what is the so-called suitable compact subset of F mentioned in the hint?)


"...and show elements outside the bounded set have a larger norm"
How??
 
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Consider the closed balls of radius r, centred at the origin:

[tex]B\left(0,r\right)=\left\{x \in V:\left\|x\right\|\leq r\right\}[/tex]

There must be one that intersects F. How do you go on from there?
 
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Why does it have to intersect F?

And how can we show elements outside the bounded set have a larger norm? I don't get this idea at all. How is this possible? Can someone please explain this in greater detail?

Thanks a lot!
 
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By definition, elements outside the ball of radius r have a larger norm than elements inside a ball of radius r. Look at how Suarez described the set
 
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For sufficiently large r, it must intersect F; otherwise, F would be empty.
 
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What would go wrong if F were empty??
 
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It wouldn't have an element with minimum norm; in fact, the original statement of your question should be "a closed nonempty subset F contains an element of minumum norm". As the empty set is closed, the statement is false without that condition.
 

FAQ: Closed subset of R^n has an element of minimal norm

What is a closed subset of R^n?

A closed subset of R^n is a subset of the n-dimensional real numbers that contains all of its limit points. This means that any sequence of points within the subset that converges to a point also belongs to the subset.

What does it mean for an element to have minimal norm?

An element of minimal norm is the element within a set that has the smallest length or distance from the origin. In other words, it is the point that is closest to the origin within the set.

Why is it important for a closed subset of R^n to have an element of minimal norm?

Having an element of minimal norm in a closed subset of R^n allows for the existence of a unique solution to certain mathematical problems, such as optimization or minimization problems. It also helps to simplify and generalize certain mathematical concepts and proofs.

How do you prove the existence of an element of minimal norm in a closed subset of R^n?

This can be done by using the concept of compactness, which states that for a subset of R^n to have an element of minimal norm, it must be both closed and bounded. By proving that a subset is both closed and bounded, we can conclude that it must have an element of minimal norm.

Can an element of minimal norm exist in a subset that is not closed?

No, an element of minimal norm can only exist in a subset that is closed. If a subset is not closed, it may not contain all of its limit points, and therefore, there is no guarantee that the element of minimal norm exists within the subset.

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