Complex integration is giving the wrong answer by a factor of two

In summary: The OP was somewhat sloppy in changing the function of interest by dropping a factor of ## 1/2 i ##, ( using it to cancel the ## 2i ## of ##2 \pi i ##). In any case, he uses a derivative formula to isolate the term of interest in the series, (the coefficient ## b ## of the ## \frac{b}{z } ## term), and when he did, he miscalculated the coefficient, so the term he got was wrong, and this gave the wrong final answer. He got a term of ## 1 ## instead of ## 2 ##, because he miscalculated a derivative, and this gave the wrong value for the residue.
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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
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$$\int_{0}^{2\pi } (1+2cost)^{n}cos(nt) dt$$

$$e^{it} = z, izdt = dz$$

$$\oint (1+e^{it}+e^{-it})^{n}\frac{e^{nit}+e^{-nit}}{2} \frac{dz}{iz} = \oint (1+z+z^{-1})^{n}\frac{z^{n}+z^{-n}}{2} \frac{dz}{iz}$$

$$\oint (z+z^{2}+1)^{n}\frac{z^{2n}+1}{z^{2n+1}} \frac{dz}{2i} = \pi Res = \pi \frac{d^{2n}}{(2n)! dz^{2n}}((z+z^{2}+1)^{n}(z^{2n}+1))$$

$$= \pi \sum \begin{pmatrix}
2n\\ \beta
\end{pmatrix} \frac{d^{\beta} {(z^{2n}+1)}}{dz^{\beta}(2n)!} \frac{d^{2n-\beta}}{dz^{2n-\beta}}(z+z^{2}+1)^{n}$$

Since the pole is at z=0, all terms above vanish apart from ##\beta = 2n##, in this case:

$$= \pi \frac{d^{2n} {(z^{2n}+1)}}{(2n)!dz^{2n}} \frac{d^{0}}{dz^{0}}(z+z^{2}+1)^{n} $$
$$= \pi \frac{(2n)!}{(2n)!} (1) = \pi $$

The answer provided by the book is ##2 \pi##

I can't really find the error i supposedly did :/
 
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Take a look at the integral and integrand to figure out the residue term without the cumbersome derivatives: You are just interested in ## z^{2n} ##, (in the numerator), and you have ## z^{2n}+1 ##, multiplied by ##(z^2+z+1)^n ##. For the ## (z^2+z+1)^n ##, you need the ## z^{2n} ## and the ## 1 ##, (the end terms on either side in the expansion). None of the other terms in the expansion will give a ## z^{2n} ## term when multiplied by ## z^{2n}+1 ##. When multiplied through and summed, it is clear that you get ## 2 z^{2n} ## as the term in the numerator that will give you the residue term, i.e. ## \frac{b}{z} ##, where ## b=2 ##.
 
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Charles Link said:
Take a look at the integral and integrand to figure out the residue term without the cumbersome derivatives: You are just interested in ## z^{2n} ##, (in the numerator), and you have ## z^{2n}+1 ##, multiplied by ##(z^2+z+1)^n ##. For the ## (z^2+z+1)^n ##, you need the ## z^{2n} ## and the ## 1 ##, (the end terms on either side in the expansion). None of the other terms in the expansion will give a ## z^{2n} ## term when multiplied by ## z^{2n}+1 ##. When multiplied through and summed, it is clear that you get ## 2 z^{2n} ## as the term in the numerator that will give you the residue term, i.e. ## \frac{b}{z} ##, where ## b=2 ##.
I can see your approach. But i really would like to know what error did i comitted :c i still did't find it
 
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[tex]\frac{1}{(2n)!}\binom{2n}{0} \frac{d^{0}}{dz^0}(z^{2n}+1)\frac{d^{2n}}{dz^{2n}} ((z^2 + z + 1)^n) = \frac{1}{(2n)!}(z^{2n} + 1)(2n)!.[/tex]
 
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Herculi said:
I can see your approach. But i really would like to know what error did i comitted :c i still did't find it
I think you also get a term from ## \beta=0 ## in the derivative summation. (The product rule with multiple derivatives is clumsy, but I think that's the term you missed).

Edit: and I see @pasmith agrees with me=he posted just as I was posting.
 
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Herculi said:
Homework Statement:: .
Relevant Equations:: .

$$\int_{0}^{2\pi } (1+2cost)^{n}cos(nt) dt$$

$$e^{it} = z, izdt = dz$$

$$\oint (1+e^{it}+e^{-it})^{n}\frac{e^{nit}+e^{-nit}}{2} \frac{dz}{iz} = \oint (1+z+z^{-1})^{n}\frac{z^{n}+z^{-n}}{2} \frac{dz}{iz}$$

$$\oint (z+z^{2}+1)^{n}\frac{z^{2n}+1}{z^{2n+1}} \frac{dz}{2i} = \pi Res = \pi \frac{d^{2n}}{(2n)! dz^{2n}}((z+z^{2}+1)^{n}(z^{2n}+1))$$

$$= \pi \sum \begin{pmatrix}
2n\\ \beta
\end{pmatrix} \frac{d^{\beta} {(z^{2n}+1)}}{dz^{\beta}(2n)!} \frac{d^{2n-\beta}}{dz^{2n-\beta}}(z+z^{2}+1)^{n}$$

Since the pole is at z=0, all terms above vanish apart from ##\beta = 2n##, in this case:

$$= \pi \frac{d^{2n} {(z^{2n}+1)}}{(2n)!dz^{2n}} \frac{d^{0}}{dz^{0}}(z+z^{2}+1)^{n} $$
$$= \pi \frac{(2n)!}{(2n)!} (1) = \pi $$

The answer provided by the book is ##2 \pi##

I can't really find the error i supposedly did :/
Why is it not ##2\pi i Res## in
$$\oint (z+z^{2}+1)^{n}\frac{z^{2n}+1}{z^{2n+1}} \frac{dz}{2i} = \pi Res = \pi \frac{d^{2n}}{(2n)! dz^{2n}}((z+z^{2}+1)^{n}(z^{2n}+1))$$

The residue at z=0 is $$\frac 1 i$$
 
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The OP simplified using the factor of ##2i## in the denominator of the integrand. It made me look twice too.
 
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I still don't see it..
$$ \oint (1+z+z^{-1})^{n}\frac{z^{n}+z^{-n}}{2} \frac{dz}{iz}=2\pi i~Res \left[(1+z+z^{-1})^{n}\frac{z^{n}+z^{-n}}{2} (-i)\right]_{z=0} $$ $$=2\pi$$
 
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The OP is finding the residue of the integrand without the factor of ##2i##.
 
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Apologies I don't know what you mean. The value of the integral is ##2\pi## and this is how you find it. He gets the wrong value...
 
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hutchphd said:
Apologies I don't know what you mean. The value of the integral is ##2\pi## and this is how you find it. He gets the wrong value...
The OP was somewhat sloppy in changing the function of interest by dropping a factor of ## 1/2 i ##, ( using it to cancel the ## 2i ## of ##2 \pi i ##). In any case, he uses a derivative formula to isolate the term of interest in the series, (the coefficient ## b ## of the ## \frac{b}{z } ## term), and when he did, he miscalculated the derivative.
 
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Wow that is a strange manipulation. Got it. Thanks.
I know it was mentioned by @Charles Link but the OP needs to understand his error was occasioned by doing the problem in a most ill-advised manner. That needs to be the take-away IMHO. The Residue Theorem is troo voodoo.
 
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In response to the previous post by @hutchphd , I do see a way to work this problem without using the residue theorem, where you can use ## \int\limits_{0}^{2 \pi} e^{imt} \, dt=0 ## for all integers ## m ##, except ## m=0 ##.
 
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Don't get me wrong I love Cauchy, but I always feel that I am summoning the occult. Sticking pins in the complex plane as it were. It works so well. I suppose when I really feel at home with Euler's Equation the feeling will abate. But anyway no derivatives are necessary to get to the residue term in this case.
 
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What is complex integration?

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