Complex Numbers: nth Root Proof

In summary, the conversation discusses proving that the complex conjugate of a complex number z, which is an nth root of the real number x, is also an nth root of x. The concept of complex conjugates is explained and it is shown that taking the complex conjugate of both sides of the equation results in the complex conjugate of x being equal to x. This leads to the conclusion that z and its complex conjugate are both nth roots of x.
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Homework Statement


Really new to complex numbers so please forgive my ignorance. Prove that if the complex number z is an nth root of the real number x then the complex conjugate z (z with horizontal line on top) is also an nth root of x.

Homework Equations


i2=-1

The Attempt at a Solution


nsqr(z) = x
z = xn

also,
abs(z) = xn
 
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Hmm. i is a square root (i.e. 2nd root) of -1. |i|=1. 1 isn't a square root of -1. Did you mean x is a nonnegative real number?
 
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Sorry, i meant z repeated, not absolute value... its late and I'm tired :P

Dick said:
Hmm. i is a square root (i.e. 2nd root) of -1. |i|=1. 1 isn't a square root of -1. Did you mean x is a nonnegative real number?
 
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Nick_273 said:
Sorry, i meant z repeated, not absolute value... its late and I'm tired :P

Ooohhh. That's not z repeated. The bar on the top notation means "complex conjugate". It's not the same thing as in 'repeated' in decimal expansions. I think you might want to look that up and figure out what it is and then we can continue this. In the meantime get some sleep. For example, how is x related to the complex conjugate of x is x is real?
 
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Haha, OK. I guess I need to get the question right before i can even attempt a solution :P.

I'll post again once I make some progress,

Thanks for clearing that up.
 
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Did you ever manage to get this problem solved?

z = a - ib and z= a+ib are complex conjugates are they not? Where both a and b are real numbers.

so in this case, if z = n(sqrt)ia

then the complex conjugate is = n(sqrt)-ia

is this correct?
 
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angus.myers said:
Did you ever manage to get this problem solved?

z = a - ib and z= a+ib are complex conjugates are they not? Where both a and b are real numbers.

so in this case, if z = n(sqrt)ia

then the complex conjugate is = n(sqrt)-ia

is this correct?

If x is real and x=z^n, can't you think of a simple reason why the complex conjugate of z raised to the power n is also x? What rule would tell you z=sqrt(n)ia? That's wrong.
 
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I think here it's more a case of what the complex conjugate of z actually is. I think that is where I am having difficulties! I've never touched on complex numbers before, I'm trying to read up on it but am obviously having basic ground work issues.

How would one go about finding the complex conjugate. Is there a set of guidelines for this?
 
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angus.myers said:
I think here it's more a case of what the complex conjugate of z actually is. I think that is where I am having difficulties! I've never touched on complex numbers before, I'm trying to read up on it but am obviously having basic ground work issues.

How would one go about finding the complex conjugate. Is there a set of guidelines for this?

You already said what the complex conjugate is. If z=a+bi with a and b real, then the complex conjugate is a-bi. The fact you need to solve this is that the complex conjugate of (a+bi)^n is (a-bi)^n. I.e. [tex]\bar {z^n}={\bar z}^n[/tex]. Do you know that?
 
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Wow! I'm an idiot! haha, Thank you for that! I didn't think of it that way and I think I was trying to over complicate things! so
z = (a +ib)^n and z(bar) = (a - ib)^n

when asked:
Prove that if the complex number z is an nth root of the real number x then
z is also an nth root of x.

means that ib = 0, as i isn't a real number? so if x is a real number, ib holds a value that is equal to 0.

Therefore z = z(bar) when b = 0? Thank you for your help!
 
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angus.myers said:
Wow! I'm an idiot! haha, Thank you for that! I didn't think of it that way and I think I was trying to over complicate things!


so
z = (a +ib)^n and z(bar) = (a - ib)^n

when asked:
Prove that if the complex number z is an nth root of the real number x then
z is also an nth root of x.

means that ib = 0, as i isn't a real number? so if x is a real number, ib holds a value that is equal to 0.

Therefore z = z(bar) when b = 0?


Thank you for your help!

You stated that in the most confusing way possible, but yes, I think you basically understand it. x=z^n. If you take the complex conjugate of both sides, the complex conjugate of x is x since it's real. And you know what happens to the other side. I hope as time goes on your explanations will become more clear.
 
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Haha awesome! Thank you very much for your help! Much appreciated!
 

FAQ: Complex Numbers: nth Root Proof

1. What are complex numbers?

Complex numbers are numbers that contain both a real part and an imaginary part. They are represented in the form a+bi, where a is the real part and bi is the imaginary part.

2. What is the nth root of a complex number?

The nth root of a complex number is a number that when multiplied by itself n times, results in the original complex number. It is represented as √(a+bi), where a and b are the real and imaginary parts respectively.

3. How do you prove the nth root of a complex number?

The proof for the nth root of a complex number involves using De Moivre's theorem, which states that the nth root of a complex number can be found by taking the nth root of the modulus (absolute value) of the complex number and dividing the argument (angle) by n.

4. Why is the proof for the nth root of a complex number important?

The proof for the nth root of a complex number is important because it allows us to find the exact values of complex roots, which have many applications in mathematics and other fields such as engineering and physics.

5. Are there any limitations to the nth root proof for complex numbers?

Yes, there are limitations to the nth root proof for complex numbers. It only works for certain types of complex numbers, specifically those in polar form. It also requires knowledge of De Moivre's theorem and complex number operations, making it more challenging to understand for those who are not familiar with these concepts.

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