Compute Volume of Solid: Step-by-Step Guide

  • Thread starter twoflower
  • Start date
  • Tags
    Volume
In summary, the conversation discusses how to compute the volume of a solid and the process of setting up the integral by drawing a diagram and determining the limits of integration for each variable. The key concepts are identifying the boundaries of the region, choosing the order of integration, and using a visual aid to help with the process.
  • #1
twoflower
368
0
Hi,

I'm having a trouble doing this:

Compute volume of the solid

[tex]
T = \left\{[x,y,z] \in \mathbb{R}^3; x \geq 0, y \geq 0, 0 \leq z \leq 1 - x - y\right\}
[/tex]

First I need to express bounds for [itex]x[/itex] and [itex]y[/itex], for [itex]z[/itex] I have it already. So because

[tex]
0 \leq z \leq 1 - x - y
[/tex]

then

[tex]
0 \leq x \leq 1 - z - y
[/tex]

and also

[tex]
0 \leq y \leq 1 - z - x
[/tex]

But that's probably not the right approach, because evaluating integral

[tex]
\iiint_{T}\ dx\ dy\ dz = \int_{0}^{1-z-x}\int_{0}^{1-z-y}\int_{0}^{1-x-y}\ dz\ dx\ dy
[/tex]

still lefts me with some [itex]z[/itex] and [itex]x[/itex] variables at the end...

Will somebody point me to the right direction?

Thank you.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
twoflower, maybe this will help.
The boundary of this region is given by the plane
[tex] x+y+z=1 [/tex].
To find the integral, for some x and y, z varies from 0 to 1-x-y (ie, till the top of the column containing the volume element).
Now keep x constant and integrate wrt to y. This corresponds to adding the columns with base in the x-y plane (from 0 to the line y=1-x). So, y varies from 0 to 1-x.
Finally you can integrate wrt to x, which by similar argument varies from 0 to 1.
 
  • #3
Btw what does "wrt" stand for? I would guess "with respect to", but it doesn't make sense to me in the previous post..
 
  • #4
The simplest way to do this is first to recognize that the plane z=1-x-y meets the plane z=0 in the line x+y=1 (the line in z=0, that is)

Now, regard the part of T lying in the plane z=0.
This is the triangle bounded by the lines x=0, y=0, x+y=1, that is, we see that 0<=x<=1 and 0<=y<=1-x (alternatively, you could describe the triangle as 0<=y<=1, 0<=x<=1-y)
 
  • #5
In general, if you know that you are going to get a definite volume, then you know that the limits on a given integral cannot depend on any of the inner variables of integration. So in your example, the limits for z can be a function of x and y, the limits for x can be a function of y but not z, and the limits for y cannot be a function of x or z.

-Dale
 
  • #6
You have
[tex]T = \left\{[x,y,z] \in \mathbb{R}^3; x \geq 0, y \geq 0, 0 \leq z \leq 1 - x - y\right\}[/tex]
and you write

[tex]V= \iiint_{T}dV = \int\int\int dz\ dx\ dy[/tex]
which indicates that you are going to integrate first with respect to z, then with respect to x, and finally with respect to y.
(That's an arbitrary choice- doing the integrations in any order must give the same answer- although one way might be easier than another.)
You are correct, of course, that the answer is a number which means that the "outside" integral, wrt y, must have only numbers as limits.
How do you find them? Draw a picture! (That should always be the first thing you do with problems like this.) Since you are told that x and y will be larger than or equal to 0, you are looking at the first quadrant in the xy-plane. z= 1- x- y is a plane, of course. It crosses the xy-plane when z= 0= 1-x-y which is the line x+y= 1, through the points (0,1) and (1,0), in the first quadrant. That tells you everything you need to know. Overall, y can be as low as 0 or as high as 1. Your "outside" integral must be [itex]\int_0^1 dy[/itex].
Now look at the "middle" integral- the one with respect for x. Since you will not yet have integrated with respect to y, the limits of integration may depend upon y. For each y what is the range for x? A fixed y is, of course, a horizontal line running from the vertical line x= 0 to the line x+ y= 1 or x= 1- y. For each y, x ranges between 0 and 1- y. The "middle" integral is [itex]\int_0^{1-y}dx[/itex].
Finally, when doing the "inner" integral, we have not yet integrated with respect to x or y so the limits of integration may be functions of both x and y. For each x,y, what is the range for z? The plane z= 1- x- y slants up from the line x+y= 1 in the xy-plane to z= 1 at the z-axis (x=y=0). The crucial point is that the xy-plane (z= 0) is the "floor" and the plane z= 1- x- y is the "roof". For a given (x,y) point, z ranges from z= 0 to z= 1- x-y. That "inner" integral is [itex]\int_0^{1-x-y}dz[/itex]

Personally, I think it helps to write "x= ", "y= ", "z= " in the limits of integration themselves. The volume is given by:
[tex]\int_{y= 0}^{y=1}\int_{x=0}^{x=1-y}\int_{z=0}^{z=1-x-y}dzdxdy[/tex].

It would be good practice for you to find the integrals in the other 5 orders, and do the integrations to see that they do indeed give the same answer!
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #7
Thank you HallsoftIvy very much for comprehensible explanation! I already managed it as soon as I draw it :) First it seemed ugly to me to draw it but it turned out to be pretty straightforward. And then the expressing 'x' for fixed 'y' was easy.
 

FAQ: Compute Volume of Solid: Step-by-Step Guide

What is the formula for computing the volume of a solid?

The formula for computing the volume of a solid depends on the shape of the solid. For example, the formula for a cube is V = s^3, where s is the length of one side. The formula for a cylinder is V = πr^2h, where r is the radius of the base and h is the height of the cylinder.

Can the volume of a solid be negative?

No, the volume of a solid cannot be negative. Volume is a measure of the amount of space occupied by an object, and it cannot be less than zero. If you get a negative value when computing the volume, it is likely that you made a mistake in your calculations.

Do I need to know the units of measurement to compute the volume of a solid?

Yes, it is important to know the units of measurement when computing the volume of a solid. The units will be included in the final answer and will depend on the units used for the dimensions of the solid. Make sure to use consistent units throughout your calculations.

What are the steps for computing the volume of a solid?

The steps for computing the volume of a solid will vary depending on the shape of the solid. However, in general, you will need to measure or know the dimensions of the solid (such as length, width, and height), plug them into the appropriate formula, and solve for the volume. It is always a good idea to double-check your calculations to ensure accuracy.

Can I use the same formula for computing the volume of any solid?

No, you cannot use the same formula for computing the volume of any solid. Different shapes require different formulas. It is important to know the specific formula for the shape of the solid you are working with in order to accurately compute the volume.

Back
Top