Confused about operator action

In summary, the conversation discusses the equation involving the momentum operator and its representation in different bases. The abstract state vector and its corresponding wave function are explained, along with the difference between the abstract operator and the differential operator. It is noted that p | ψ > does not have a meaningful evaluation unless it is represented in a specific basis.
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Hi. I have come across the following equation < x | p | ψ > = - iħ d/dx < x | ψ > where p is the momentum operator. I'm confused as to how p which acts to the right on | ψ >can then be taken outside the inner product so it now also acts on the bra < x | ?
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The inner product ##\left<x|\psi\right>## is the wave function ##\psi(x)## that corresponds to the abstract state vector ##\left|\psi\right>##. That equation just says that the momentum operator in the position representation is the differential operator ##-i\hbar\frac{d}{dx}##.
 
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Still confused. What is p | ψ > then ? and why does the differential operator not act on the < x | bra ?
 
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##p\left|\psi\right>## is the abstract state vector that has a corresponding wave function ##\left<x|p|\psi\right>=-i\hbar\frac{d\psi(x)}{dx}##.
 
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Does p | ψ > = -iħ d/dx | ψ > ?
 
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Does p | ψ > = -iħ d/dx | ψ > ?

No it isn't, because ##\left|\psi\right>## is not a function of ##x##, it is a vector. The inner product ##\left<x|\psi\right>## is a function of ##x## and you can act on it with differential operators. There is a difference between the abstract operator ##p## that acts on state vectors, and the corresponding differential operator ##-i\hbar\frac{d}{dx}## that acts on wavefunctions.
 
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Thanks. So does p | ψ > have any meaning on its own ? Can it be evaluated as it is ?
 
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Thanks. So does p | ψ > have any meaning on its own ? Can it be evaluated as it is ?

You can't really make anything of the expression ##\left|\psi\right>## unless you represent it in some basis. The position representation, where you convert it into a function ##\psi(x)## is one possible basis. Another way would be to give the complex numbers ##\left<0|\psi\right>,\left<1|\psi\right>,\left<2|\psi\right>,\dots##, where the ##\left|0\right>,\left|1\right>,\left|2\right>,\dots## are a complete set of energy eigenstates.
 
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