Confusion about four vector notation

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Homework Statement
what is the correct formula of the gradient in four vector notation
Relevant Equations
x_{mu}=(ct,-r)
hi guys

I am trying to learn special relativity and relativistic quantum mechanics on my own and just very confused about the different conventions used for the notation!?, e.g: the four position 4-vector some times denoted as
$$
x_{\mu}=(ct,-\vec{r})\;\;or\;as\;x_{\mu}=(ict,\vec{r})
$$
or for the contra-variant case
$$
x^{\mu}=(ct,\vec{r})\;or\;as\;x^{\mu}=(ict,\vec{r})
$$
the 4-gradiant also this way with 1/ic or 1/c, and sometimes the "time" component as x4 or as x0 , sometime with an "i" or without it, i tried to learn from different sources and most of them are different, what is the standard notation used for the position 4-vector and the gradient 4-vector? what is the easiest book to learn the subject for a beginner?

thanks in advance
 
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There isn't a standard notation. Personally, I've never used a textbook that uses the complex ##ict## notation.

At this level it shouldn't make too much difference whether a book uses the convention ##+---## or ##-+++##. You should be able to handle either without difficulty.
 
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I strongly recommend to choose one textbook at the beginning and work with it through the basics. I'd exclude any textbook using the ##\mathrm{i} c t## convention, because this is really outdated nowadays.
 
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can you suggest an introductory level book that doesn't use the "ict"
 
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For SR, I like Taylor and Wheeler's Spacetime Physics (there's a free-to-download version on Taylor's website). @PeroK usually recommends Morin's Special Relativity for the Enthusiastic Beginner, the first chapter of which is free online.

As noted above, there's no agreed standard for anything in relativity, but ##ict## is all but vanished as far as I'm aware (and about time too, in my opinion), although I haven't read enough QFT texts to have a view of the state of play there. +--- versus -+++ is a matter of choice. I prefer +--- because I've usually found it leads to fewer "forgot to take the modulus, so the sqrt function complained" incidents, but this may depend on your personal interests. I prefer to write time as the zeroth component because often you suppress a spatial dimension or two by a careful choice of coordinates, and it feels more natural to say "##(t,x,y,z)## can be reduced to ##(t,x,y)##" than "##(x,y,z,t)## can be reduced to ##(x,y,t)##". But that's definitely personal preference. You have to be flexible so that you can work with what the book you are working from uses.
 
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My favorite is Landau&Lifshitz vol. 2.
 
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Generally, I'd suggest Taylor and Wheeler (as @Ibix does) and Bondi for introductions to relativity.
However, for your stated goal and question on notation,
I'd suggest Woodhouse - Special Relativity.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1852334266/?tag=pfamazon01-20

It is a more mathematically advanced introduction to special relativity
with emphasis on spacetime geometry, more careful attention to tensor notation,
and application to electromagnetism.

A position 4-vector is most naturally a vector ##V^\mu## (drawn as an arrow or vector or an ordered pair of points),
which, in the presence of a metric, can have its index lowered to the dual-vector, covector, or 1-form ##V_\mu=g_{\mu\nu}V^\nu## (drawn as an ordered pair of hyperplanes).

soapbox mode:
While convenient for calculations, sometimes index-gymnastics hides​
the more fundamental nature of the objects involved.​
For more on this viewpoint of the more fundamental nature of objects, look at​
Burke's Applied Differential Geometry​
Spacetime Geometry and Cosmology​
and his unfinished draft of "Div Grad Curl are Dead"​
I think the source of this viewpoint comes from​
Jan Schouten - Tensor Analysis for Physicists​
which is a more readable summary with physical applications of his Ricci Calculus book.​
 
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