Connection between phase, wave number and momentum

In summary, the conversation discusses the physical justification of the de Broglie relation and its connection to the phase of a scalar light field. The phase velocity is mentioned as a way to characterize waves, and de Broglie's thesis and Nobel prize lecture are suggested as sources for further information.
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cin-bura
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hello!

Does anybody know the physical justification of the de broglie relation p=\hbar k? or (i guess equivalently) for p=-i\hbar ∂/∂x ?

i came across a more general "law" in laser physics, where momentum is seen as the gradient of the phase of a scalar light field (used in eg the paraxial wave equation).

what is the exact connection between the phase (or actually it's gradient) and momentum, and where does it come from physically?

thank you!
 
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Hello cin-bura,

Do you have a reference for the statement that "momentum is seen as the gradient of the phase" ?

Long ago Lord Raleigh found that one way to characterize waves is the phase velocity. That is the velocity of the plane in which the phase is constant. That's more of a mathematical extrapolation than a physical observable because it's only in special situations that that plane is aligned with the actual wave front. But from the phase velocity many facts about the wave can be determined which de Broglie used to great advantage.

For the rationale and derivation you can see de Broglie's thesis or Noble prize lecture:

http://dieumsnh.qfb.umich.mx/archivoshistoricosMQ/ModernaHist/De_Broglie_Kracklauer.pdf

http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/p...ie-lecture.pdf
 
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FAQ: Connection between phase, wave number and momentum

What is the relationship between phase, wave number, and momentum?

The phase, wave number, and momentum are all related to the wave-like behavior of particles. Phase refers to the position of a particle in its oscillatory motion, wave number is a measure of the spatial frequency of the wave, and momentum is the product of an object's mass and velocity.

2. How does changing the phase affect the wave number and momentum?

Changing the phase of a particle's oscillatory motion does not directly affect the wave number or momentum. However, it can change the amplitude and frequency of the wave, which can then impact the wave number and momentum.

3. Can the wave number and momentum be used to determine the phase of a particle's oscillatory motion?

No, the wave number and momentum alone cannot determine the phase of a particle's oscillatory motion. Other factors such as the initial position and velocity of the particle must also be known.

4. How do phase, wave number, and momentum relate to each other in the de Broglie wave equation?

In the de Broglie wave equation, the wave number is equal to the momentum divided by Planck's constant, and the phase is related to the wave number and position of the particle. This equation shows the connection between these three quantities in the wave-like behavior of particles.

5. What is the significance of the connection between phase, wave number, and momentum in quantum mechanics?

The connection between phase, wave number, and momentum is significant in quantum mechanics because it helps to describe the wave-like behavior of particles at the quantum level. It also helps to explain various phenomena, such as the diffraction and interference of particles, which are crucial in understanding the behavior of matter at the atomic and subatomic levels.

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