Conservation of Energy, pendulum problem

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The discussion revolves around solving a pendulum problem involving a 0.092 kg ball attached to a rod. Key points include calculating the ball's speed and tension in the rod at its lowest point, and determining the angle at which the tension equals the weight of the ball. Participants express confusion over finding the height needed for energy conservation calculations, with suggestions to use trigonometry to determine height based on the angle θ. The height can be defined as r(1 - cosθ) or r*cosθ, depending on the reference point chosen. Clarifications emphasize the importance of understanding the geometry of the pendulum's motion for accurate calculations.
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Homework Statement



To form a pendulum, a 0.092 kg ball is attached to one
end of a rod of length 0.62 m and negligible mass, and the other
end of the rod is mounted on a pivot. The rod is rotated until it is
straight up, and then it is released from rest so that it swings down
around the pivot.When the ball reaches its lowest point, what are
(a) its speed and (b) the tension in the rod? Next, the rod is rotated
until it is horizontal, and then it is again released from rest. (c) At
what angle from the vertical does the tension in the rod equal the
weight of the ball? (d) If the mass of the ball is increased, does the
answer to (c) increase, decrease, or remain the same?

Homework Equations



ƩFy=> t-mgcosθ = ma
a= (v^2/r) ---> t-mgcosθ = m*(v^2/r)

Ki+Ui= Kf+Uf

The Attempt at a Solution



I have done part A and B already. But I am struggling trying to figure out part C.

I know, that they are asking at what angle, would t=mg(weight of the bob)

so if we substitute t= mg in t-mgcosθ = ma, we get => mg-mgcosθ=m(v^2/r)

in this step, the book calculated for velocity and then calculated the height.

I sincerely don't know how to go about this problem.

Im having trouble trying to find the height in order to apply it to the equation for conservation of energy.

In the book solution, they solved it by first using Newtons second law to find V^2f . They didnt show how to solve for height.

Please, can someone give an insight of possible ways i can approach this problem?

Thank you in advance.
 
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The height above the pivot is just r*cosθ (or maybe -r*cosθ depending on your sign definition). As you know the initial height, you can calculate the height difference, which allows to get v as function of θ.
 
Im sorry, I don't understand, I am bit more confused than i was before. Would you please elaborate a bit more? how do you the height above is that?
 
Did you draw a sketch? You get the height via simple trigonometry, the expression depends on your definition of the angle θ.
 
but isn't height= r(1-cosθ).
where r=length of the cord?
 
Litcyb said:
but isn't height= r(1-cosθ).
where r=length of the cord?
It depends where you choose to measure the height from. Simplest is to measure it from the axis of rotation.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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