Conservation of Energy, pendulum problem

In summary: If you choose to measure it from the lowest point, you get a negative height.In summary, the conversation discusses the formation of a pendulum and its behavior when released. It also includes a discussion on the calculation of tension, speed, and angle at different points in the pendulum's motion. The solution involves using Newton's second law and conservation of energy to find the velocity and height of the pendulum.
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Homework Statement



To form a pendulum, a 0.092 kg ball is attached to one
end of a rod of length 0.62 m and negligible mass, and the other
end of the rod is mounted on a pivot. The rod is rotated until it is
straight up, and then it is released from rest so that it swings down
around the pivot.When the ball reaches its lowest point, what are
(a) its speed and (b) the tension in the rod? Next, the rod is rotated
until it is horizontal, and then it is again released from rest. (c) At
what angle from the vertical does the tension in the rod equal the
weight of the ball? (d) If the mass of the ball is increased, does the
answer to (c) increase, decrease, or remain the same?

Homework Equations



ƩFy=> t-mgcosθ = ma
a= (v^2/r) ---> t-mgcosθ = m*(v^2/r)

Ki+Ui= Kf+Uf

The Attempt at a Solution



I have done part A and B already. But I am struggling trying to figure out part C.

I know, that they are asking at what angle, would t=mg(weight of the bob)

so if we substitute t= mg in t-mgcosθ = ma, we get => mg-mgcosθ=m(v^2/r)

in this step, the book calculated for velocity and then calculated the height.

I sincerely don't know how to go about this problem.

Im having trouble trying to find the height in order to apply it to the equation for conservation of energy.

In the book solution, they solved it by first using Newtons second law to find V^2f . They didnt show how to solve for height.

Please, can someone give an insight of possible ways i can approach this problem?

Thank you in advance.
 
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The height above the pivot is just r*cosθ (or maybe -r*cosθ depending on your sign definition). As you know the initial height, you can calculate the height difference, which allows to get v as function of θ.
 
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Im sorry, I don't understand, I am bit more confused than i was before. Would you please elaborate a bit more? how do you the height above is that?
 
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Did you draw a sketch? You get the height via simple trigonometry, the expression depends on your definition of the angle θ.
 
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but isn't height= r(1-cosθ).
where r=length of the cord?
 
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Litcyb said:
but isn't height= r(1-cosθ).
where r=length of the cord?
It depends where you choose to measure the height from. Simplest is to measure it from the axis of rotation.
 

FAQ: Conservation of Energy, pendulum problem

What is the law of conservation of energy?

The law of conservation of energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be transferred or converted from one form to another.

How does the conservation of energy apply to a pendulum?

In a pendulum, the energy is constantly changing between potential energy (when the pendulum is at its highest point) and kinetic energy (when the pendulum is at its lowest point). However, the total energy of the system remains constant.

Can the conservation of energy be violated in a pendulum?

No, the conservation of energy is a fundamental law of physics and cannot be violated. In a perfect system, a pendulum will continue to swing back and forth with the same amount of energy.

How does the length of a pendulum affect its energy?

The length of a pendulum affects the period (time for one swing) of the pendulum, which in turn affects the amount of energy it has. A longer pendulum will have a longer period and therefore less energy, while a shorter pendulum will have a shorter period and more energy.

Can friction affect the conservation of energy in a pendulum?

Yes, friction can cause some of the energy in a pendulum to be converted into heat, sound, or other forms of energy. This means that the total energy of the system will decrease over time, but the law of conservation of energy still applies.

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