Conservation of energy - the elevator question

In summary, the cable of a 3750 lb elevator snaps when at rest at the first floor, causing it to hit a cushioning spring with a force constant of 10,000 lb/ft. A safety device removes 1000 ft-lb of energy for every 1.00 ft the elevator moves. The speed before hitting the spring is 23.7318 ft/s and the distance the spring is compressed is 2.8587 ft. However, there may be a discrepancy with the answer given by the homework system.
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jamesm113
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The cable of a 3750 lb elevator in the figure below snaps when the elevator is at rest at the first floor so that the bottom is a distance d = 12.0 ft above a cushioning spring whose force constant is k = 10,000 lb/ft. A safety device clamps the guide rails, removing 1000 ft-lb of mechanical energy for each 1.00 ft that the elevator moves.
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(a) Find the speed of the elevator just before it hits the spring. mgh-1000h=mv^2/2 - 3750(12)-1000(12) = (3750/32)v^/2

v= 23.7318

(b) Find the distance that the spring is compressed. I got 2.8587 ft for this, but apparently it's wrong. Here's what I did:

mv^2/2 + mgx - 1000x = 1/2kx^2
(3750/32)(23.7318^2)/2 + 3750x - 1000x = 10000x^2/2
33000 + 2750x = 5000x^2
x= 2.8587
 

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jamesm113 said:
mv^2/2 + mgx - 1000x = 1/2kx^2
(3750/32)(23.7318^2)/2 + 3750x - 1000x = 10000x^2/2
33000 + 2750x = 5000x^2
x= 2.8587
Perhaps, you forgot to multiply by 'g'?
 
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3750 lbs. = mg, right?
 
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Your answers (and method) look OK to me. What makes you think it's wrong?
 
  • #5
I use webassign, a web based homework system and I entered the answer and it said I was wrong.
 
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Often those systems are picky about the number of significant figures. Does it tell you why your answer is wrong?
 
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no, and this one gives an error margin of 1%. I've never had sig fig problems before.
 
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jamesm113 said:
3750 lbs. = mg, right?

Ahh yes, I forgot your in pounds. Being a Brit, I'm used to working in kilos and rarely have to deal with lbs. As Doc Al says, I can't see anything wrong with your method. Does webassign allow your to enter exact solutions? In which case the exact solution would be;

[tex]x = \frac{1}{40}\left( 11 + \sqrt{10681} \right)\; m[/tex]
 
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If you didn't make a significant figures mistake, then the only problem could be an incorrectly entered solution by the instructor. Perhaps he accidentally entered the negative root from the quadratic function instead of the positive root. I am convinced that it is not your mistake.
 

FAQ: Conservation of energy - the elevator question

How does conservation of energy apply to elevators?

Elevators are a common example of the principle of conservation of energy. When an elevator is moving, it is converting potential energy into kinetic energy and vice versa. This means that as the elevator goes up, its potential energy increases and its kinetic energy decreases, and the opposite happens as it goes down. At all times, the total energy of the system (the elevator and its surroundings) remains constant.

Is it possible for an elevator to violate the law of conservation of energy?

No, it is not possible for an elevator to violate the law of conservation of energy. This law is a fundamental principle of physics that states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed from one form to another. Therefore, an elevator must always follow this rule, even if it may seem like it is not.

Can an elevator's energy be completely conserved?

In theory, yes, an elevator's energy can be completely conserved. However, in reality, there are always some inefficiencies and losses in the system, such as friction, air resistance, and heat loss. These losses may seem small, but they add up over time and can result in a decrease in the elevator's total energy. Therefore, while energy conservation is a fundamental principle, it is not always achievable in practice.

What role do different types of elevators play in conservation of energy?

Different types of elevators, such as hydraulic, traction, and pneumatic, all operate on the same principle of conservation of energy. However, their methods of converting and using energy may differ. For example, hydraulic elevators use fluid pressure to move the elevator car, while traction elevators use a motor and pulley system. Regardless of the type, all elevators must follow the law of conservation of energy.

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