Consider the Electric Field E(t,x,y,z) = Acos(ky-wt)k

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field from the given electric field E(t,x,y,z) = A cos(ky-wt) k, specifically addressing two parts of a homework problem. For part a, participants are trying to find the magnetic field using the relationship ∂B/∂t = -∇×E, with some confusion about the direction of the curl and how to derive B. In part b, they confirm that the divergence of E is zero, but there is uncertainty about the calculations leading to this conclusion and how to show that ∇·B = 0. Clarifications on the definitions of curl and divergence are provided, helping participants understand the vector components involved. Overall, the conversation highlights the challenges in applying vector calculus to electromagnetic fields.
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Homework Statement


Consider the Electric Field E(t,x,y,z) = A\cos(ky-wt)\hat{k}

a) Find the magnetic field such that \partial_t B + \nabla \times E = 0
b) Show that ##\nabla \cdot E = 0## and that ##\nabla \cdot B = 0##.

The Attempt at a Solution



So for part a, the curl of E = -\partial B / \partial t

Curl of E works out to be -Ak\sin(ky-wt) I think but then I'm not sure how you get the magnetic field.

For part b, div E = 0. I don't understand how to get this. I do the calculations and get -A*t*\sin(k*y - t*w) - A*y*\sin(k*y - t*w)? Where am I going wrong? I don't know how to do the second part at all, div B = 0.

Thanks in advanced
 
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Smazmbazm said:

Homework Statement


Consider the Electric Field E(t,x,y,z) = Acos(ky-wt)\hat{k}

a) Find the magnetic field such that \partial t B + \nabla \times E = 0
b) Show that \nabla \cdot E = 0 and that \nabla \cdot B = 0.

The Attempt at a Solution



So for part a, the curl of E = -\partial B / \partial t

Curl of E works out to be -Aksin(ky-wt) I think but then I'm not sure how you get the magnetic field.
The curl of a vector field is a vector field. What is the direction vector?

Find B by solving the equation you are given:
\nabla\times \vec{E}= -\frac{\partial\vec{B}}{\partial t}

For part b, div E = 0. I don't understand how to get this. I do the calculations and get -A*t*sin(k*y - t*w) - A*y*sin(k*y - t*w)? Where am I going wrong? I don't know how to do the second part at all, div B = 0.
div fi+ gj+ hk is f_x+ g_y+ h_z. n Here f and g are 0 while h is a function only of y and t, not z.

Thanks in advanced
 
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Hi Smazmbazm! :smile:

(i assume k is the unit vector in the z direction)
Smazmbazm said:
Curl of E works out to be -Aksin(ky-wt)

in which direction? :wink:
For part b, div E = 0. I don't understand how to get this. I do the calculations and get -A*t*sin(k*y - t*w) - A*y*sin(k*y - t*w)?

i'm not sure how you got that :confused:

div is simply ∂/∂x of the x coordinate + … + …

try again :smile:
 
Right so for the first part \nabla \times E = [\partial / \partial y Acos(ky - wt) - 0]\hat{i} + [\partial / \partial x Acos(ky - wt) - 0]\hat{j} + [0 - 0]\hat{k}.

\nabla \times E = -Aksin(ky - wt)\hat{i}, correct?

For b, right. I think I confused myself. The definition of div is \partial f / \partial x + \partial g / \partial y + \partial h / \partial z. Is that f, g and h referring to each direction? Like \hat{i}, \hat{j}, \hat{k}? If so, that makes more sense

Thanks guys
 
Smazmbazm said:
\nabla \times E = -Aksin(ky - wt)\hat{i}, correct?

correct :smile:
The definition of div is \partial f / \partial x + \partial g / \partial y + \partial h / \partial z. Is that f, g and h referring to each direction? Like \hat{i}, \hat{j}, \hat{k}?

yup, that's div(f,g,h) :smile:
 
Sorry the previous post should be \partial B / \partial t = -Aksin(ky - wt)\hat{i} rather then \<br /> \nabla \times E = -Aksin(ky - wt)\hat{i}

So to get the electric field you integrate -Aksin(ky - wt) with respect to t? Not sure where to go from there..
 
Smazmbazm said:
So to get the electric field you integrate -Aksin(ky - wt) with respect to t? Not sure where to go from there..

Now I'm getting confused …

isn't it the magnetic field that you want? :confused:

Yes, integrate ∂B/∂t wrt t, and you get B. :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
isn't it the magnetic field that you want? :confused:

Yes, sorry, magnetic not electric. Ok, thanks tiny-tim
 

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