Constructing a subset of l_2 with dense linear span with finite complement

In summary: This new set S′ satisfies the given property, since the linear span of S′ is dense in \ell_2 (as it contains D, a countable dense subset of \ell_2) and S\S′ is infinite (as it contains the complement of S, which is uncountable).In summary, to show that there exists a set S′ whose linear span is dense in \ell_2 and for which S\S′ is infinite, we can start with any countably infinite subset S of \ell_2 and add a countably infinite subset of a countable dense subset of the complement of S in \ell_2. This will satisfy the given property. I hope this helps. Keep up the good work
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Homework Statement


Suppose that S is a countably infinite subset of [itex]\ell_2[/itex] with the property that the linear span of S′ is dense in [itex]\ell_2[/itex] whenever S\S′ is finite. Show that there is some S′ whose linear span is dense in [itex]\ell_2[/itex] and for which S\S′ is infinite.

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried repeatedly to solve this by constructing a series of subsets of some arbitrary S, such that the complement is finite and of increasing size. I haven't actually used the fact that we're working in [itex]\ell_2[/itex] here, so it's quite likely that I'm meant to use some property of Hilbert spaces - however, I'm not sure what. Could anyone please help? Thankyou very much; Mathmos6
 
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Dear Mathmos6,

Thank you for your post. This is a very interesting problem and I appreciate your attempt at solving it. Let me provide some guidance on how to approach this problem.

First, let's recall the definition of a dense subset. A subset S of a topological space X is said to be dense if every point in X is either in S or a limit point of S. In other words, every open set in X contains a point from S.

Now, let's consider the linear span of a set S in \ell_2. This is defined as the set of all finite linear combinations of elements in S. In other words, it is the set of all possible sums of the form a_1x_1 + a_2x_2 + ... + a_nx_n, where a_i are scalars and x_i are elements in S.

Now, let's think about the given property of S. We know that the linear span of S′ is dense in \ell_2 whenever S\S′ is finite. This means that for any point x in \ell_2, we can find a sequence of points in the linear span of S′ that converges to x. In other words, the linear span of S′ is dense in \ell_2.

With this in mind, let's try to construct a set S′ that satisfies the given property. We can start with any countably infinite subset S of \ell_2. Now, we want to find a subset S′ of S such that the linear span of S′ is dense in \ell_2 and S\S′ is infinite.

One way to do this is to consider the complement of S in \ell_2. This complement is an uncountable set, so we cannot simply choose a finite subset from it. However, we can use the fact that \ell_2 is a separable space. This means that there exists a countable dense subset D of \ell_2. In other words, every point in \ell_2 is either in D or a limit point of D.

Now, let's consider the complement of S in \ell_2. This complement is an uncountable set, but we know that it contains a countable dense subset D. We can choose a countably infinite subset S′' of D and add it to S to form a new set S′ = S ∪ S′
 

FAQ: Constructing a subset of l_2 with dense linear span with finite complement

What is l2?

l2 is a mathematical notation for a sequence of numbers that are square-summable, meaning the sum of the squares of the numbers is finite.

What does it mean to construct a subset of l2 with dense linear span?

Constructing a subset of l2 with dense linear span means finding a smaller set of numbers within l2 that can be used to approximate any other number in l2 with high accuracy. This smaller set is called the linear span, and it is dense if it contains all possible combinations of the numbers in the set.

Why is it important to have a finite complement in this construction?

A finite complement ensures that the subset of l2 is not too large and can be easily manipulated for mathematical calculations. It also ensures that the subset is a proper subset of l2, meaning it does not contain all the elements of l2.

What applications does this construction have in science?

This construction is commonly used in functional analysis, a branch of mathematics that studies vector spaces and linear transformations. It has applications in fields such as quantum mechanics, signal processing, and Fourier analysis.

Is constructing a subset of l2 with dense linear span with finite complement a difficult task?

It can be a challenging task, as it requires a deep understanding of functional analysis and advanced mathematical techniques. However, with proper knowledge and techniques, it is possible to construct such a subset.

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