Continuous Functions - Thomae's Function ....

In summary, the author is discussing how there are only a finite number of rational numbers with a denominator less than n_0 in the interval (b-1, b+1). They go on to say that for each of these finitely many numbers there are only finitely many rational numbers with a denominator less than n_0 in the interval. If $k$ is a positive integer less than $n_0$, the distance between consecutive rational numbers with denominator $k$ is $1/k$. This means that there are at most $2k$ such numbers in the interval $(b-1,b+1)$. Finally, they say that a finite union of finite sets is finite, so there are only
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I am reading "Introduction to Real Analysis" (Fourth Edition) b Robert G Bartle and Donald R Sherbert ...

I am focused on Chapter 5: Continuous Functions ...

I need help in fully understanding an aspect of Example 5.1.6 (h) ...Example 5.1.6 (h) ... ... reads as follows:
View attachment 7262In the above text from Bartle and Sherbert, we read the following:

" ... ... There are only a finite number of rationals with denominator less than \(\displaystyle n_0 \)in the interval \(\displaystyle ( b - 1, b + 1)\). (Why? ) ... ... Can someone explain to me why the above statement holds true?Help will be appreciated ... ...

Peter*** EDIT ***

... oh ... just realized that if denominator has to be less than \(\displaystyle n_0\) then there can only be, at most, \(\displaystyle n_0 -1\) of these rational numbers ... that is ... a finite number! ... ... ... Is that correct!

Peter
 
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Suppose that $k$ is a positive integer less than $n_0$. The distance between consecutive rational numbers with denominator $k$ is $1/k$. So there at most $k$ such numbers in an interval of length $1$. Therefore there are at most $2k$ such numbers in the interval $(b-1,b+1)$, which has length $2$.

Thus for each of the finitely many numbers $k$ ($1\leqslant k\leqslant n_0$) there are only finitely many rational numbers with denominator $k$ in the interval $(b-1,b+1)$. But a finite union of finite sets is finite. Thus there are only finitely many rational numbers with denominator $\leqslant n_0$ in the interval $(b-1,b+1)$.
 
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Opalg said:
Suppose that $k$ is a positive integer less than $n_0$. The distance between consecutive rational numbers with denominator $k$ is $1/k$. So there at most $k$ such numbers in an interval of length $1$. Therefore there are at most $2k$ such numbers in the interval $(b-1,b+1)$, which has length $2$.

Thus for each of the finitely many numbers $k$ ($1\leqslant k\leqslant n_0$) there are only finitely many rational numbers with denominator $k$ in the interval $(b-1,b+1)$. But a finite union of finite sets is finite. Thus there are only finitely many rational numbers with denominator $\leqslant n_0$ in the interval $(b-1,b+1)$.
Hmm ... really interesting ...

Required a more thoughtful analysis than my first intuitive reaction ...:( ...

Thanks for the help ... enables me to see what is required in analysis ...

Peter
 

FAQ: Continuous Functions - Thomae's Function ....

What is Thomae's function?

Thomae's function, also known as the popcorn function or the Riemann function, is a mathematical function that is defined as f(x) = 1/q if x is a rational number p/q in lowest terms, and f(x) = 0 if x is irrational. It was first described by German mathematician Carl Johannes Thomae in 1875.

Is Thomae's function continuous?

Yes, Thomae's function is continuous at every irrational number and discontinuous at every rational number. This means that for any given value of x, the function will have the same output regardless of whether x is slightly larger or slightly smaller, as long as x is irrational.

What is the graph of Thomae's function like?

The graph of Thomae's function is a series of disconnected points, resembling a staircase. The function approaches 0 at every irrational number, but jumps to a height of 1/n at every rational number 1/n. The graph is also known as the popcorn graph due to its resemblance to a popcorn kernel.

What is the importance of Thomae's function?

Thomae's function is a counterexample to many mathematical conjectures and properties. It is not differentiable at any point, and it is also not Riemann integrable. It is also used in the proof of the Riemann-Lebesgue lemma, which is a fundamental theorem in Fourier analysis.

Are there any real-life applications of Thomae's function?

Thomae's function is a purely theoretical concept and does not have any direct real-life applications. However, it is used in many mathematical proofs and serves as a useful tool for understanding the properties of continuous and discontinuous functions.

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