Convergence of Series: Ratio Test vs. Comparison Test

In summary, the conversation discusses the convergence or divergence of a series and the use of the root and ratio tests to determine this. There is also a discussion about the role of the term (n+1) in the original equation and how it factors into the limit. Ultimately, it is determined that the series can be approached using the ratio test and is divergent due to its similarity to the harmonic series.
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Homework Statement



Does this series converge or diverge. n=1 SIGMA infinity ( (n+1)^n / ( n^(n+1) ) )

this could also be changed to lim n-> infinity (1 + 1/n)^n , but then i ask, where the n+1 in the original equation has went?

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Since those are all positive numbers, I would be inclined to use the root test:
[tex]^n\sqrt{\frac{(n+1)^n}{n^{n+1}}}= \frac{n+1}{n^\frac{n+1}{n}}[/itex]
If the limit of that is less than 1, then the series converges.

As to "where did the n+1 go", how did you get "lim (1+ 1/n)^n"?
 
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The summand can be expressed as [tex]\frac{ \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n }{n}[/tex], but that doesn't really help anyway.

Halls, the root test returns 1, ie inconclusive. I haven't gone through with the calculations but I would try the ratio test next.
 
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Gib Z said:
The summand can be expressed as [tex]\frac{ \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n }{n}[/tex], but that doesn't really help anyway.

expressing the summand as [tex]\frac{ \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n }{n}[/tex] does help, you just have to give up finding a test but consider finding a divergent minorante.
[tex] \frac{1}{n} < \frac{ \left( 1 + \frac{1}{n} \right)^n }{n}[/tex] and we know that
[tex] \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{1}{n} = \infty [/tex]
 
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Damn that is right >.< good work dalle!
 
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Okay, so this problem should be approached by the ratio test. We know it diverges, and i believe so because 1/n is a harmonic series.

also, dalle, it looks though that may be similar to the comparison test then?

and "As to "where did the n+1 go", how did you get "lim (1+ 1/n)^n"?" it was a hint given by the problem and it also is equal to e.
i'm still confused by this.

thankyou for all the help so far.
 

FAQ: Convergence of Series: Ratio Test vs. Comparison Test

What is a series test?

A series test is a mathematical tool used to determine whether an infinite series, or a sum of infinitely many terms, converges or diverges. It involves analyzing the behavior of the terms in the series in order to make a conclusion about its convergence or divergence.

Why is it important to use a series test?

Using a series test is important because it allows us to determine the behavior of an infinite series, which can have various applications in mathematics and science. It helps us understand the convergence or divergence of a series, which can have implications in areas such as calculus, statistics, and physics.

How do I know which series test to use?

The choice of series test to use depends on the specific characteristics of the series in question. Some common series tests include the ratio test, the root test, and the comparison test, among others. The best way to determine which series test to use is to analyze the behavior of the terms in the series and see which test is most suitable for that particular series.

What is the difference between a convergent and a divergent series?

A convergent series is one in which the sum of all its terms approaches a finite number as the number of terms increases towards infinity. In other words, the terms in a convergent series eventually get smaller and smaller, resulting in a finite sum. On the other hand, a divergent series is one in which the sum of its terms either approaches infinity or does not approach any finite number as the number of terms increases towards infinity. In this case, the terms do not get smaller and smaller, resulting in an infinite or undefined sum.

Can a series have both convergent and divergent parts?

Yes, a series can have both convergent and divergent parts. This is known as a conditionally convergent series. In this case, the series contains both positive and negative terms that alternate in such a way that the overall sum converges, even though the individual parts of the series may diverge. This concept is important in the study of alternating series in mathematics.

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