Convergence of Subsequences in a Set I

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of subsequence convergence and how it relates to the convergence of a sequence in a set I to a point in I. It is concluded that a subsequence can be lacking an infinite number of points in I, but it still converges. The importance of the word "every" is emphasized in determining if a sequence converges to a point in I.
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pivoxa15
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Homework Statement


Does
A subsequence of a sequence X converges to a point in I => The sequence X in I converges to a point in I
?

The Attempt at a Solution


I think yes because the subsequence is the sequence itself minus a few finite number of points. Since they both are in the same set I, I can't see why not.
 
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A subsequence can be lacking an infinite number of points in I. If a sequence is 1,-1,1,-1,1,-1,...

the subsequence

1,1,1,1,1...

certainly converges. You can tell me what you think about the statement
 
  • #3
Good example.

The question should be
Does
A subsequence of a sequence X converges to a point in I <= The sequence X in I converges to a point in I
?

Now it should be yes.

But we genearlly refer to seq and subseq as containing an infinite number of points.
 
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If [tex]f:\mathbb{N}\rightarrow I[/tex] is a sequence in a set I, then a subsequence of f is a sequence of the form h = f o g, where [tex]g:\mathbb{N}\rightarrow\mathbb{N}[/tex] is a strictly increasing sequence of natural numbers.

I like to think of g as a discriminating function that picks which guys from f it wants in its kickball team.. or which girls does the Maharajah wants in its harem, or... any such pictorial analogy to remember the definition.
 
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pivoxa15 said:
The question should be
Does
A subsequence of a sequence X converges to a point in I <= The sequence X in I converges to a point in I
?

Now it should be yes.
And it goes farther too: The sequence X in I converges to a point y in I <=> Every subsequence of X converges to y.
 
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quasar987 said:
And it goes farther too: The sequence X in I converges to a point y in I <=> Every subsequence of X converges to y.

It a little subtle. Every is essential. I didn't have every in my original statement so no if and only if condition.
 

FAQ: Convergence of Subsequences in a Set I

1) What is the definition of convergence of sequences?

Convergence of sequences is a mathematical concept that describes the behavior of a sequence as its terms approach a certain value or limit. It means that as the sequence continues, its terms get closer and closer to the limit.

2) How do you determine if a sequence is convergent?

To determine if a sequence is convergent, you can use the formal definition of convergence which states that for any small positive number, there exists a corresponding term in the sequence after which all the terms are within that small number of the limit. This means that as the terms of the sequence go on, they gradually get closer and closer to the limit.

3) What is the difference between convergence and divergence?

The difference between convergence and divergence is that a convergent sequence has a limit, meaning that its terms get closer and closer together as the sequence progresses. In contrast, a divergent sequence does not have a limit and its terms do not approach a specific value as the sequence continues.

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