Correcting Limits in Double Integral for Intersection Volume of Three Cylinders

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem with finding the volume of the intersection between three cylinders using two different double integrals. The first integral is incorrect due to a mismatch in the limits of integration for z and theta, while the second integral is correct. It is suggested to adjust the first integral's integration with respect to z to match the integration with respect to theta in order to obtain the correct answer.
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Scigatt
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Homework Statement


I was trying to find the volume of the intersection between 3 cylinders x^2 + y^2 = 1, y^2 + z^2 =1, and z^2 + x^2 =1. I set up the double integral in two different ways:
[tex]8\int_{\theta = \frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \sqrt{1 - r^{2}\: cos^{2}\, \theta}\; \; r\: dr\: d\theta[/tex]
[tex]16\int_{\theta = 0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \sqrt{1 - r^{2}\: cos^{2}\, \theta}\; \; r\: dr\: d\theta [/tex]

They should give the same answer, but they don't. Apparently the second one is supposed to be right.

Homework Equations


see above

The Attempt at a Solution


After doing all the integrating, I get
[tex]\frac{8}{3} \left [ tan\, \theta \; - \; sec\, \theta \;- \; cos\, \theta \right ]_{\frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} = \frac{16}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{16}{3} \left [ tan\, \theta \; - \; sec\, \theta \;- \; cos\, \theta \right ]_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} = 8(2 - \sqrt{2})[/tex]

what's going on here?
 
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Scigatt said:

Homework Statement


I was trying to find the volume of the intersection between 3 cylinders x^2 + y^2 = 1, y^2 + z^2 =1, and z^2 + x^2 =1. I set up the double integral in two different ways:
[tex]8\int_{\theta = \frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \sqrt{1 - r^{2}\: cos^{2}\, \theta}\; \; r\: dr\: d\theta[/tex]
[tex]16\int_{\theta = 0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \sqrt{1 - r^{2}\: cos^{2}\, \theta}\; \; r\: dr\: d\theta [/tex]

They should give the same answer, but they don't. Apparently the second one is supposed to be right.

Homework Equations


see above

The Attempt at a Solution


After doing all the integrating, I get
[tex]\frac{8}{3} \left [ tan\, \theta \; - \; sec\, \theta \;- \; cos\, \theta \right ]_{\frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} = \frac{16}{3}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{16}{3} \left [ tan\, \theta \; - \; sec\, \theta \;- \; cos\, \theta \right ]_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{4}} = 8(2 - \sqrt{2})[/tex]

what's going on here?
Your second result is correct.

The error with your first result occurs with your integration with respect to z. In the first case, you have integrated r*dz between z = 0 and z= sqrt[1-r^2*cos(theta)]. That is, the region in the first Octant. However, when it comes to your integration of theta, you have integrated over two octants.
 
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Hootenanny said:
Your second result is correct.

The error with your first result occurs with your integration with respect to z. In the first case, you have integrated r*dz between z = 0 and z= sqrt[1-r^2*cos(theta)]. That is, the region in the first Octant. However, when it comes to your integration of theta, you have integrated over two octants.

Are you talking about octant in the plane or octants in space? I'm not sure how the 'mismatched' octants would lead to such an error. Here is the preliminary triple integral of the first integral:

[tex]8\int_{\theta = \frac{-\pi}{4}}^{\frac{\pi}{4}}\int_{r = 0}^{1} \int_{z = 0}^{\sqrt{1 - x^{2}}}\: dz\: r\: dr\: d\theta [/tex]

You say that there is a flaw in the in the first integral because of a conflict in the z and theta limits. How would you change the integral without changing the theta-limits so that it gives the right answer?
 
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