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What is the most corrosion resistant alloy other than Zirconium and SS that could be used in reactors but it is not economical?
It's possible that they will crack eventually.candice_84 said:Thanks for your reply, Do SiC or pyroltic C have low neutron absorption? and also do they crack after 10 or 20 years?
candice_84 said:What is the most corrosion resistant alloy other than Zirconium and SS that could be used in reactors but it is not economical?
Astronuc said:Is one asking about fuel structural material or reactor vessel structural material.
candice_84 said:My question is about structural material. For example in Molten Salt Reactor the the temperature of fuel or coolant is very high and I assume salt is corrosive, what can be used that could stay there for 60 years and not let the coolant leak into the moderator? I think it would be a disaster if coolant or fuel leak into moderator since it is carrying fission product. Also what kind of fuel do they use in Naval reactors?
QuantumPion said:The structural supports for the fuel assemblies are made of Inconel, which is probably what you are looking for.
candice_84 said:According to this website the melting point of Inconel, http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html the melting point of Inconel is around 1400 C. While the fuel center line temperature of UO2, which is used in PWR is 1400 C. I think Inconel cannot work for Molten Salt Reactor. I am in my 2nd year university, so don't take my opinion as granted, i might be wrong. :)
FYI - http://www.gen-4.org/Technology/systems/msr.htmcandice_84 said:According to this website the melting point of Inconel, http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html the melting point of Inconel is around 1400 C. While the fuel center line temperature of UO2, which is used in PWR is 1400°C. I think Inconel cannot work for Molten Salt Reactor. I am in my 2nd year university, so don't take my opinion as granted, i might be wrong. :)
Water is rather corrosive, especially when heated to operating temperatures of nuclear reactor. Uranium eventually hydrolyzed to UO3 which is soluble in water. In addition, fission products would also form compounds with water and each other.candice_84 said:Thanks for the paper, in the case of MSR, Why don't they mix uranium in water, so it would be less corrosive.
Astronuc said:Reactor grade zirconium alloys have less than 0.010% by weight (100 ppm) of Hf, which is down from the natural value of ~2% Hf in ziron ores (ores with higher Hf concentrations have been found). Production values can be less than 100 ppm.
The total EBC (equivalent boron content) of cladding and structural material is also limited. This is more of a concern for LWR materials, rather than epithermal or fast reactor materials.
Hf is also commerically valuable.
Astronuc said:Uranium eventually hydrolyzed to UO3 which is soluble in water. .
Yes - it's one of the problems with degraded fuel rods which have failed. U-metal would oxidize to an oxide, which is one of the reasons that LWR fuel is UO2. But under reactor operating conditions, UO2 reacts with water/steam to oxidize first to U3O8, then to U4O9, and then finally to UO3, which in water/steam and a radiation environment forms a soluble hydroxide, e.g, UO2(OH)2. Irradiated fuel is more complicated because of the presence of volatile and soluble fission products.candice_84 said:If I understand you correctly, This means if uranium is dissolved in water, at high temperature it breaks from water? (making to different compounds?
Astronuc said:Yes - it's one of the problems with degraded fuel rods which have failed. U-metal would oxidize to an oxide, which is one of the reasons that LWR fuel is UO2. But under reactor operating conditions, UO2 reacts with water/steam to oxidize first to U3O8, then to U4O9, and then finally to UO3, which in water/steam and a radiation environment forms a soluble hydroxide, e.g, UO2(OH)2. Irradiated fuel is more complicated because of the presence of volatile and soluble fission products.
In reactor coolant, tramp uranium, and transuranics such as Np-239 and Pu-isotopes are a problem.
candice_84 said:My question is about structural material. For example in Molten Salt Reactor the the temperature of fuel or coolant is very high and I assume salt is corrosive, what can be used that could stay there for 60 years and not let the coolant leak into the moderator? I think it would be a disaster if coolant or fuel leak into moderator since it is carrying fission product. Also what kind of fuel do they use in Naval reactors?
Hologram0110 said:You're absolutely right Astronuc. I mixed-up the content of commercial grade and reactor grades. For the commercial grade they do not remove nearly as much hafnium to save on cost.
For nuclear fuel, there are four functional requirements, three of which one mentioned:candice_84 said:In reactor operation the three golden rules are "control, cool and contain". The fuel clad is one of the defense in depth barriers (Contain fission product). But according to your explanation, in the case of fuel failure, Uranium can escape through the ceramic into the gap of fuel cladding. Then escape from the clad to the water becoming oxidized (I am assuming there has to be a crack in the zirconium clad otherwise UO2 won't contact water to become oxidized). But this is a serious issue because fission product can also follow the same path as the UO2 and get into the coolant.
Also since you have mentioned about it is complicated to explain Irradiated fuel, Is there a difference between Irradiated fuel and degrading fuel? or you mean, irradiation of fuel by-product that escaped into the coolant. I mean neutron bombardment of any substance or compound which becomes activated and therefore emitting radiation (the creation of tritium for instance)
The Kroll and Van Arkel processes are typically used in the prepration of purified Zr sponge. The hafnium is separated by solvent extraction.minerva said:Hf is very chemically similar to Zr, which means that most commercial Zr contains a small amount of Hf, since it is found together with Zr in nature and most chemical processing won't separate it.
For most non-nuclear applications this doesn't matter, but since Hf has a high neutron cross-section but Zr has a low neutron capture cross section, it has a large effect when it is used for LWR fuel cladding.
When the first LWRs were developed, using Zr-alloys for fuel cladding, a special solvent extraction process was invented at ORNL specifically to allow nuclear-grade Zr with a very low Hf content to be produced.
There is ongoing research in this area. The motivation is to have a material that does not corrode under PWR coolant conditions. There are however challenges, e.g., how to seal the ends.candice_84 said:Is it possible to make PWR fuel rods from SiC in 17 x 17 fuel assembly? Does it cost more than Zirconium?
Corrosion-resistant alloys are materials that are specifically designed to withstand the harsh and corrosive environments found in nuclear reactors. These alloys are able to resist corrosion caused by factors such as high temperatures, radiation, and chemical reactions.
Corrosion can cause damage to the structural integrity of nuclear reactors, leading to safety hazards and costly repairs. Corrosion-resistant alloys are crucial in preventing this type of damage and ensuring the safe and efficient operation of nuclear reactors.
There are several types of corrosion-resistant alloys used in nuclear reactors, including stainless steels, nickel-based alloys, and zirconium alloys. These alloys are chosen for their specific properties such as high strength, resistance to oxidation, and compatibility with nuclear fuel.
Corrosion-resistant alloys undergo rigorous testing and qualification processes before they are approved for use in nuclear reactors. This includes exposure to simulated reactor conditions, such as high temperatures and radiation levels, to ensure the alloys can withstand these environments without degrading.
While corrosion-resistant alloys are essential for the safe operation of nuclear reactors, they can be more expensive and difficult to manufacture compared to traditional materials. Additionally, some alloys may have limitations in certain reactor designs or operating conditions, requiring careful selection and testing by engineers.