Cosmic rest frame, proper distances and comoving distances

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In summary, the conversation discusses the difficulty in understanding terms related to relativity and cosmology in a textbook. The speaker offers their own explanation, mentioning that distance in general relativity and cosmology depends on the choice of coordinates. They also suggest some resources, including a FAQ and papers, to further understand the concept of proper distance in cosmology.
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I am trying to understand more about these terms. I am currently studying a course about relativity and cosmology, but I am finding the textbook (Open University) difficult to follow. Can anyone help me untangle and make some simple sense of these different terms? Thanks
 
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I can suggest a couple of FAQ's and papers related to these issue, and give my own take.

My own take first: all notions of distance in general relativity and cosmology are dependent on one's choice of coordinates. The main reason is that to define distance, one must slice space time into space+time.

The standard choice of cosmological coordinates is a cosmological time based on the FRW metric. Physically, one can regard that objects which are moving with the Hubble flow have constant cosmological spatial coordinates. Objects "moving with the Hubble flow" will see the cosmic microwave background radiation as being the same in all direction, i.e. isotropic. Clocks on these observers (the one's comoving with the Hubble flow) measure cosmological time.

Proper distance in cosmology is the distance measured on a hypersurface of constant cosmological time, i.e one can imagine a chain of observers who all measure their distance to the next observer in the chain at some certain instant of cosmological time, and the sum of these distances is the proper distance.. See in particular Ned Wright's cosmology FAQ on this point, and for a few other distance measures that are easier to measure in practice.

Note that this makes the definition of proper distance coordinate dependent, unlike the definition in special relativity. Thus the concept of "proper distance" in special relativity is different from the concept used in cosmology.

Some of the promised papers: Note these links are links to the abstracts, you can view the full text of the paper in several formats (I'd suggest pdf)

http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmo_01.htm Ned Wright's cosmology tutorial
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0310808 "Expanding confusion" especially appendix A
http://arxiv.org/abs/0707.0380 "Expanding space, the root of all evil?"
 

FAQ: Cosmic rest frame, proper distances and comoving distances

1. What is the cosmic rest frame?

The cosmic rest frame is a hypothetical reference frame in which the expansion of the universe appears to be isotropic, meaning the same in all directions. It is often used in cosmology to study the large-scale structure of the universe.

2. How are proper distances different from comoving distances?

Proper distances are measured in terms of the physical distance between two objects at a specific point in time, taking into account the expansion of the universe. Comoving distances, on the other hand, are measured based on the fixed scale of the universe without accounting for its expansion.

3. What is the significance of using comoving distances in cosmology?

Comoving distances are important in cosmology because they allow us to study the large-scale structure of the universe without being affected by the expansion of the universe. This is because comoving distances use a fixed scale, making it easier to compare distances between objects at different points in time.

4. Can objects in the universe have a proper distance of zero?

No, objects in the universe cannot have a proper distance of zero. This is because the expansion of the universe causes objects to move away from each other, even if they were initially close together. The proper distance between two objects can only be zero at the moment of their creation, such as during the Big Bang.

5. How do we measure distances in the cosmic rest frame?

Distances in the cosmic rest frame are typically measured using cosmological redshift, which is the stretching of light waves as they travel through the expanding universe. This allows us to determine the relative distances of objects from our vantage point in the cosmic rest frame.

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