Could Anything Survive in the Habitable Zone Without a Host Star?

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In summary, the habitable zone is dependant on the output of its star, and it only describes a region where liquid water is possible and temperature is suitable. There are other ways to have liquid water outside or inside the goldilocks zone that could support life or for that matter other life supporting elements such as ammonia etc.
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I understand the concept of the habitable zone or ''Goldilocks Zone," but can't anything technically be in the habitable zone? Even if the planet in question is far away from its host star, couldn't a greenhouse effect create an atmosphere and/or warm enough temperatures (but not too warm) to contain liquid water? Would this mean that anything could be in the habitable zone as long as it has another way to generate heat of its own if it is too far to gain sufficient heat from its host star?
 
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The goldilocks zone is dependant on the output of its star, it only describes a region where liquid water is possible and temperature is suitable. Their are other ways to have liquid water outside or inside the goldilocks zone that could support life or for that matter other life supporting elements such as ammonia etc. One example is the possibility of Europia supporting life in its underground oceans. That moon lies outside the habitable zone.
 
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Oh, thank you. With that in mind, what defines the habitable zone? Is there a way to calculate how large the habitable zone is for a certain star? Is energy output the only factor in calculating the habitable zone of a star?
 
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Astronomers use apparent magnitude, luminosity and stellar flux along with the inverse square law to calculate habitable zones for stars. The "center" of the HZ is defined as the distance that an exoplanet would have to be from its parent star in order to receive the right amount of energy from the star to maintain liquid water. For example, a star with 25% of the luminosity of the Sun will have a CHZ centered at about 0.50 AU, while a star with twice the Sun's luminosity will have a CHZ centered at about 1.4 AU.

here is a couple of articles that covers some of the calculations involved

http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/H/habzone.html

http://www.astro.umd.edu/~miller/teaching/astr380f09/lecture14.pdf

http://www.planetarybiology.com/calculating_habitable_zone.htm


http://arxiv.org/pdf/1301.6674v2.pdf

the last paper is fairly intense but it shows more modern methodology. The graphs are also handy.
 
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Mordy, that article http://arxiv.org/pdf/1301.6674v2.pdf is interesting! Thanks for calling our attention to it. I'm going to add it to the informal A&C bibliography in the Astro forum. It's a handy place to keep links of stuff one might want to refer to, if you think they might be of general interest and helpful to other members.
The thing I like is that it considers various cases of the mass of the planet and its atmosphere, so the various ways the greenhouse effect changes the inner and outer limits of the Zone are presented in a detailed informative way.
 
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No problem I often save gems such as that article, saving it on the site would be a good idea.

I've seen a lot of various short hand ways to use my callsign but that's the first time I've seen Mordy used lol
 

FAQ: Could Anything Survive in the Habitable Zone Without a Host Star?

What is a habitable zone?

A habitable zone, also known as the Goldilocks zone, is the area around a star where a planet can have the right conditions to sustain liquid water on its surface and potentially support life.

How is the habitable zone determined?

The habitable zone is determined by a combination of factors, including the distance from the star, the star's size and temperature, and the composition of the planet's atmosphere. It is also affected by the planet's own size and atmosphere.

Can a planet be in the habitable zone and still not support life?

Yes, a planet can be in the habitable zone and still not support life. The habitable zone only takes into account the presence of liquid water, but there are many other factors that contribute to a planet's ability to support life, such as the planet's atmosphere, magnetic field, and geological activity.

What types of stars have habitable zones?

The habitable zone can exist around many types of stars, including main sequence stars like our Sun, red dwarf stars, and even giant stars. However, the habitable zone for each type of star will be different due to variations in their size and temperature.

Are all planets within the habitable zone automatically habitable?

No, just because a planet is within the habitable zone does not mean it is automatically habitable. Many other factors, such as the planet's atmosphere and geological activity, also play a crucial role in determining a planet's habitability. Additionally, a planet's habitability can change over time due to various factors such as changes in the star's luminosity or the planet's own geological activity.

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