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- Could cosmic rays induce a vacuum decay in the future (by natural means)?
I've been told that very energetic cosmic rays could cause a vacuum phase transition or vacuum decay (and even could cause a true vacuum level to go "uphill" to a false vacuum) due to their high energy levels.
I've found some references supporting this claim [1], [2], [3], [4]
But also one paper arguing that vacuum decay induced by particle collisions (such as cosmic rays collisions) would be suppressed and no amount of cosmic rays collisions occurring in nature (even in the largest production sites) could trigger such phenomenon [5]. But at the same time, the author speculates that in the future with powerful colliders we could cause a vacuum decay. However, I don't really get how the author says that a futuristic civilization could get enough energy to cause a vacuum phase transition while saying that even the most energetic events in the universe producing high-energy cosmic rays (like quasars and AGN) would fail to do so. I mean, I'm pretty sure there will be more energy in such natural events than in a particle collider even if we are talking about futuristic potential scenarios.
I asked the author from [5] about this and he said
However, I find it hard to believe that no place in the universe would achieve such conditions (especially in energetic events). I mean, for instance, it is far more likely that cellular life survives in a controlled environment by us in a lab than in a random planet (since as far as we know there is only one planet with life). The conditions for life to exist are pretty difficult to achieve in nature. However, it is possible even if very unlikely
Therefore, is it possible or not that cosmic rays collisions may trigger such a vacuum decay? And if not, or if it is unclear, could it be triggered by other mechanisms (like certain types of black holes for example)?
[1]: https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/10.1142/9789814440783_0002
[2]: https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019PhRvD..99b4046C/abstract
[3]: https://theses.ncl.ac.uk/jspui/handle/10443/4907
[4]: https://www.osti.gov/etdeweb/biblio/5974966
[5]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.03620
I've found some references supporting this claim [1], [2], [3], [4]
But also one paper arguing that vacuum decay induced by particle collisions (such as cosmic rays collisions) would be suppressed and no amount of cosmic rays collisions occurring in nature (even in the largest production sites) could trigger such phenomenon [5]. But at the same time, the author speculates that in the future with powerful colliders we could cause a vacuum decay. However, I don't really get how the author says that a futuristic civilization could get enough energy to cause a vacuum phase transition while saying that even the most energetic events in the universe producing high-energy cosmic rays (like quasars and AGN) would fail to do so. I mean, I'm pretty sure there will be more energy in such natural events than in a particle collider even if we are talking about futuristic potential scenarios.
I asked the author from [5] about this and he said
If the Higgs instability really exists, triggering it needs putting in the same place at the same time a few hundred of very energetic Higgs bosons and (roughly) nothing else.
Natural colliders can accidentally concentrate a few random particles. This is not enough to trigger the instability. The point is that a big temperature (for example in the early universe) does not induce fast vacuum decay.
An old computation found that the thermal energy
a) allows to jump over the Higgs potential barrier, but
b) it also makes the barrier higher.
Black holes make something qualitatively similar to a big “Hawking” temperature.
People who claim that black holes trigger vacuum decay include a) but forgot to include b).
Same for scattering of particles. When many particles scatter randomly, the result is somehow similar to thermal.
To trigger the vacuum instability one needs a very special collision that only involves Higgs bosons.
This makes it too much unlikely to occur by chance.
However, I find it hard to believe that no place in the universe would achieve such conditions (especially in energetic events). I mean, for instance, it is far more likely that cellular life survives in a controlled environment by us in a lab than in a random planet (since as far as we know there is only one planet with life). The conditions for life to exist are pretty difficult to achieve in nature. However, it is possible even if very unlikely
Therefore, is it possible or not that cosmic rays collisions may trigger such a vacuum decay? And if not, or if it is unclear, could it be triggered by other mechanisms (like certain types of black holes for example)?
[1]: https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/10.1142/9789814440783_0002
[2]: https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2019PhRvD..99b4046C/abstract
[3]: https://theses.ncl.ac.uk/jspui/handle/10443/4907
[4]: https://www.osti.gov/etdeweb/biblio/5974966
[5]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2301.03620