Counting and Probability why is this wrong?

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of counting and probability in relation to creating ten letter words from the English alphabet with at least one X, one Y, and one Z. The attempted solution involves choosing a place for each letter and then selecting the remaining letters from the alphabet. However, this method leads to double-counting of words with identical letters. The question is posed if it is normal to struggle with counting.
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charmedbeauty
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Counting and Probability...why is this wrong??

Homework Statement



How many ten letter words can be made from the english alphabet which contain at least one X, at least one Y and at least one Z?



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



1) Choose a place for X (10 ways)
2)Choose a place for Y(9 ways)
3)Choose a place for Z(8 ways)
4)Choose another seven letters from the alphabet (26) with repetitions allowed (267 ways)

So the number of 10 letter words= 10.9.8.267 where (.) means multiply.

what is so wrong about this?
 
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Think about this,

One of your words would have be XXYZCDEFGHI, the bolded X being the one you chose initially. Now, you have another word XXYZCDEFGHI, the bolded again being the X you chose this time. Both are the same words. Apply the same logic to other letters, so many cases in your answer are repeated.
 
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charmedbeauty said:

Homework Statement



How many ten letter words can be made from the english alphabet which contain at least one X, at least one Y and at least one Z?



Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



1) Choose a place for X (10 ways)
2)Choose a place for Y(9 ways)
3)Choose a place for Z(8 ways)
4)Choose another seven letters from the alphabet (26) with repetitions allowed (267 ways)

So the number of 10 letter words= 10.9.8.267 where (.) means multiply.

what is so wrong about this?

You double-count the words that have two identical letters, or triple-count the ones with three identical letters, etc.

RGV
 
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Ray Vickson said:
You double-count the words that have two identical letters, or triple-count the ones with three identical letters, etc.

RGV

Ohh now it seems so clear... is it normal to struggle at counting?
 

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1. Why is counting and probability important in science?

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