Creating an OR Gate with Two TTL Output Signals

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In summary, the conversation discusses using an OR gate between two output TTL signals by joining the signals together using diodes. It also mentions that output TTL signals have a pull up resistor included and explains the different output levels for each signal. It is mentioned that using Open Collector devices is a better option for wired OR and that this practice is not recommended for non-OC devices or CMOS devices.
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Hi there,

I have a simple question.
OR gate between 2 output TTL signals can be done with diodes and simply join the signals toguether... ?

Output TTL signals have a pull up resistor included:

For one output:
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Output level 1) 5 V / -4 ma
Output level 0) 0.7 V / -16ma


What happens if we join 2 wires:

TTL Output 1 ----|<------|
TTL Output 2 ----|<------|---------- TTL Input


1 + 1 = 5 V / -8 ma - okay
0 + 0 = 0,7 V / -32 ma - ... limit for the input TTL device

0 + 1 = 5 V / -4mA - the level 0, O.7 V can't provide current

I know, I can do that with TTL components.

Best Pierre.
 
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pghislain said:
What happens if we join 2 wires:
It's called wired OR.
It works better if you use Open Collector (OC) devices.
The 74XX series had several OC devices.
It's not a recommended practice for non oc devices and tends to cause problems.
Don't try this with CMOS devices.
 
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Hello Pierre,

Thank you for your question. Yes, it is possible to create an OR gate with two TTL output signals by using diodes to combine the signals together. However, it is important to note that TTL output signals have a specific voltage and current range that they can handle. When combining two signals, the resulting output signal must still fall within this range in order to properly function.

In your example, it appears that the combined output signal for 0 + 0 (0.7 V / -32 ma) would exceed the current limit for the input TTL device. This could potentially cause the input device to malfunction or even damage it. It is important to carefully consider the specifications and limitations of the components being used when designing circuits.

Additionally, it is possible to create an OR gate using TTL components, which would ensure that the resulting output signal falls within the appropriate range. This may be a safer and more reliable option for creating an OR gate with TTL output signals.

I hope this helps answer your question. Best of luck with your project!

Sincerely,
 

FAQ: Creating an OR Gate with Two TTL Output Signals

What is an OR gate and why is it important in TTL output signals?

An OR gate is a logic gate that takes in two or more inputs and produces an output based on the logical OR operation. In the context of TTL output signals, OR gates are used to combine multiple signals and produce a single output, making it an essential component in digital circuit design.

How do you create an OR gate with two TTL output signals?

To create an OR gate with two TTL output signals, you will need to use a TTL logic IC, such as the 74LS32 Quad 2-Input OR gate. Connect the two TTL output signals to the inputs of the IC and connect the output of the IC to the desired output signal. Make sure to follow the IC's pin diagram and datasheet for proper connections.

What are the advantages of using TTL output signals in an OR gate?

TTL output signals are often preferred for OR gates because they are fast, reliable, and have a relatively low power consumption compared to other logic families. They also have a wide range of operating voltages, making them suitable for various applications.

What are some common issues that may arise when creating an OR gate with TTL output signals?

One common issue is incorrect pin connections, which can result in the OR gate not functioning correctly. Another issue may be signal interference, which can be caused by nearby electrical components or improper grounding. Make sure to carefully follow the IC's datasheet and use proper circuit design techniques to avoid these issues.

Can an OR gate with TTL output signals be used for other logical operations?

Yes, OR gates can be used for other logical operations, such as NOR, NAND, and XOR. By combining multiple OR gates, you can create more complex logic circuits to perform a variety of operations. However, it is essential to understand the limitations and proper usage of OR gates when designing circuits.

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