Cross fertilization between string and non string approaches.

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In summary, there are many people who have worked in both string and non-string quantum gravity, with some crossover between the two fields. Some notable examples include George Ellis, who organized a conference to bring string and non-string QG researchers together, and Leonardo Modesto, Sergey Alexandrov, and Lee Smolin, who have all published papers in both string and non-string QG. Other researchers, such as Laurent Freidel and Stephon Alexander, have also shown interest in problems from both fields. Additionally, there are connections between string theory and other approaches, such as AdS/CFT and emergent gravity.
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Do you know people who work in both string and non string QGs, or who changed from string to non string or vice versa?
 
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MathematicalPhysicist said:
Do you know people who work in both string and non string QGs, or who changed from string to non string or vice versa?

Well sure, many people doing LQG-related stuff have done string. There is cross-over.

But there is another dimension to the question you are asking. What about actual crossfertilization at the level of ideas?

George Ellis (co-author with Hawking of The Large Scale Structure of Space Time) is a worldclass figure in cosmology and gen rel. Highly respected elder statesman. For his 70 birthday in 2009 he wanted to bring string and non-string QG people together in a conference and get them talking and sharing ideas. Cambridge Press has made a book out of the talks given at the conference. It is called Foundations of Space and Time.

I would say that is a start, just a beginning to the kind of cross-fert that has to happen. There were people from several communities participating: LQG, string, CDT, classic GR, various stripes of QFT, sugra, I think also asymptotic safety. We have a discussion thread about it. Book scheduled to appear March 2011.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?p=2899654#post2899654

The list of actual people who have crossed over is large and would be too much work to try to compile other than by casual mention.

I will mention a few LQG and other nonstring folks who, if you go back you see they published some string research papers

Leonardo Modesto (earlier string now mainly LQG)
Sergey Alexandrov (likewise)
Lee Smolin (earlier some dozen or so string papers)
Aurelien Barrau (LQC phenomenology, earlier string phenom.)
Alejandro Perez (mainly LQG, but has done string-related stuff)
Matilde Marcoli (mainly NCG but has done LQG-spinfoam and string-related stuff)
Jan Ambjorn (mainly CDT now, but still does occasional string)
Renate Loll (mainly CDT but will do some string/matrix theory now and then)
Stephon Alexander (has done a bit of border-crossing, not easy to describe)These are just the names that came to mind. Probably there are 20 others at least as obvious but I just didn't think of them. People at this level tend to be smart and alert to interesting problems in neighbor fields. There is nothing to stop them, if they see a problem they want to work on.
For instance Laurent Freidel, a prominent LQG researcher, in 2008 presented a proof of AdS/CFT correspondence in the 3D/2D case with an explicit method to reconstruct bulk from boundary information. Maybe AdS/CFT is not exactly "string", but it goes to show how these people roam about---you can't always predict what they are going to work on or come out with.
 
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AdS/CFT and LQG (spin networks) mentioned in the same breath on the last page of
http://www.emergentgravity.org/drupal/sites/default/files/EGIV_presentations/Vidal.pdf

AdS/CFT and emergent gravity mentioned on the last page here:
http://dao.mit.edu/~wen/talks/10IPMU.pdf

Wen's attempt at emergent gravity http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.1203 , may have some relation to Horava's attempt http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.0009 .

And Markopoulou's work is informed by Wen's http://arxiv.org/abs/0911.5075

So old fashioned LQG <-> Markopoulou <-> Wen <-> tensor networks <-> Vidal <-> AdS/CFT?
 
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Thanks, I knew only of Smolin being ex-string theorist.
 

FAQ: Cross fertilization between string and non string approaches.

What is cross fertilization between string and non string approaches?

Cross fertilization between string and non string approaches refers to the exchange and integration of ideas, techniques, and methodologies between string theory and other non-string theoretical approaches in physics. This allows for a more comprehensive understanding of the Universe and the fundamental laws that govern it.

Why is cross fertilization important in science?

Cross fertilization is important in science because it promotes collaboration and innovation. By combining different theories and approaches, scientists can gain new insights and make advancements in their respective fields. This can lead to a deeper understanding of the natural world and potential breakthroughs in scientific research.

3. How does cross fertilization benefit string theory?

Cross fertilization benefits string theory by providing new perspectives and approaches to solving problems and addressing unanswered questions. It also allows for the incorporation of experimental data and observations from other fields, which can help validate or refine string theory predictions.

4. Can cross fertilization lead to conflicts between different theories?

Yes, cross fertilization can sometimes lead to conflicts between different theories. This is because each theory may have its own set of assumptions and principles that may not always align with those of other theories. However, these conflicts can also lead to further discussions and the development of new, more comprehensive theories.

5. What are some examples of successful cross fertilization in science?

Some examples of successful cross fertilization in science include the integration of quantum mechanics and relativity in the development of quantum field theory, the use of computer simulations in studying complex biological systems, and the application of statistical mechanics in understanding the behavior of large-scale systems in physics and chemistry.

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