Cross-over between Enjeneering and Physics (Graduate school decisions)

In summary, the speaker is a senior completing a B.S. in physics and is interested in both physics and engineering. They are unsure about specializing in physics in graduate school and are considering switching to engineering. They are wondering about the possibility and requirements for switching to an engineering graduate program with their physics background. The expert suggests that switching is not uncommon and that a background in probability theory and signals and systems may be helpful for entering an engineering program.
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Hello,
I am a senior who will complete his B.S. in physics from the College of William and Mary (VA) in one year. By the end of that time, I will have taken (as is typical) two semesters of classical & quantum mechanics, two of E&M, one of Stat. Mech./Thermo, analog electronics, etc. I will also have had three semesters of calculus, linear algebra, and ordinary differential equations. I like physics for the theory, and am on track to apply for graduate programs in physics. However, I am still interested in engineering (mech., EE, aero, etc).

Other that experimental, I don't know what physics I want to specialize in. I am afraid that in grad school I will run out of appetite for higher and higher abstract theory (and perhaps talent).

1. I want to know if switching in grad. school from physics to engineering is easy, impossible, unheard of, etc.

2. If possible, what type of classes would someone with my previous physics experience (above classes + 1.5 years of research) need to take to switch from a graduate program in physics, to one inn engineering. Like what undergrad. stuff would I be lacking. Perhaps CAD skills, more thermodynamics, ect?


I know I need to look more into what types of things engineering offers, as well as physics grad. school. I am looking over graduate classes in both to try and get a feel for it. A lot of this is just personal choice (except the talent bit), but I feel like I need help in the practical scheduling of what I could do as a backup plan.

Thank you
 
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I did all my degrees in EE, and know quite a few people who went from physics undergrad to EE grad. So my answer to question 1) is that it is not at all uncommon.
By the way, especially for the "applied physics" parts of EE, many professors will LOVE to get a physics major. Here I am thinking semiconductor devices and physics, photonics, electromagnetics, plasma physics, etc.

For question 2) the number of undergrad classes you need to take will depend upon your exact background, what specialty you want to do in engineering, what the department requires (especially if there are formal qualifiers that cover certain undergrad topics ...) and what your advisor requires.

I cannot speak to other fields, but for EE the two main holes I see in your background are:

a) probability theory. This is really key. I know that you learned some of this in stat mech, but are you comfortable with things like conditional expectation? Anyway, you will almost certainly need to take probability if you haven't already. This is a common hole in the background of most physics majors I end up interviewing as well; if physics departments would start requiring at least one semester of probability theory the marketability of physics majors would go way up! (sorry for the rant).

b) signals and systems. This is the class that will take a physicist and make them think like an EE. This is not hard stuff - mostly aspects of Fourier analysis, but the qualitative and quantitative understanding it provides is key.

You could easily teach yourself these topics. Neither are that hard given your physics background. If you know these, then in my opinion you are not really missing anything essential from the first three years of an EE education. Senior level courses are often taken by grad students anyway, so specialty classes can always be made up without any fuss.

Best of luck,

jason
 
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Thank you very much. You are correct, I can get my physics degree without ever having to take a dedicated stat. mech. or thermo. class. All my advisers say it would be essentially required for grad. school though. My college offers a 400 level probability theory course through the math department. I will consider taking it if I can squeeze it in.
 

FAQ: Cross-over between Enjeneering and Physics (Graduate school decisions)

What is the difference between engineering and physics?

Engineering is a field that applies scientific and mathematical principles to design, develop, and maintain structures, machines, devices, systems, and processes. Physics is a branch of science that focuses on the study of matter, energy, and their interactions. While engineering uses the principles of physics to solve practical problems, physics explores the fundamental laws and theories of the universe.

Can I pursue a graduate degree in both engineering and physics?

Yes, it is possible to pursue a graduate degree in both engineering and physics. However, it may require additional time and effort as you will need to fulfill the requirements of both programs. Some universities also offer joint or dual degree programs that combine engineering and physics coursework.

How can a background in engineering help in a physics graduate program?

A background in engineering can provide a strong foundation in mathematics, problem-solving, and critical thinking skills, which are essential for success in a physics graduate program. Additionally, engineering coursework may also cover some topics in physics, such as mechanics, electromagnetism, and thermodynamics, making the transition to a physics program smoother.

What are the career opportunities for someone with a graduate degree in engineering and physics?

Graduates with dual degrees in engineering and physics have a diverse range of career opportunities. They can work in various industries, such as aerospace, energy, and telecommunications, as well as in research and development. Some specific job titles may include research scientist, systems engineer, data analyst, and product development engineer.

How can I decide between pursuing a graduate degree in engineering or physics?

The decision ultimately depends on your interests and career goals. If you are more interested in the practical applications of science and technology, engineering may be a better fit. On the other hand, if you have a passion for understanding the fundamental laws of the universe and conducting research, physics may be the right choice. It is also worth considering the specific programs and research opportunities offered by universities to make an informed decision.

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