Current due to metal spheres kept far away in the sea

In summary, the conversation discusses solving for current flow between two shells with positive charges, and how it is similar to current flow between electrodes with a resistance. The main difficulty lies in finding the effective resistance between the shells. Part (c) assumes that each shell has the same charge distribution and the current flows from each shell into the sea. The correct equation for current is I = 4πσV/(1/a - 1/b), and in part (c), as V decreases to half, the current also decreases to 2πσVa. There is a correction made regarding the value of "a" in the equation.
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Pushoam
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The Attempt at a Solution


I solved the first part.
I = 4πσV/(1/a - 1/b)
Here, it is solved assuming that both the shells have positive charges and the charge flows from the inner shell to the outer shell .
So, in the part c, it is assumed that each shell has the same charge distribution and from each shell the charge will flow into the sea.
Since, the total charge flowing into the medium is twice the charge flowing from each shell, the current into the sea = 2 I = 2πσVa.
Is it correct so far?
 
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Part (a) and (b) are about current flowing from an electrode at a higher potential to an electrode at a lower potential via a resistance . No different in principle to connecting a resistance across the terminals of a battery .

The electrodes in this problem just happen to be in the form of shells .

The only difficulty in finding the current flowing between the shells is in working out what the effective resistance of the weekly conducting material between the shells is . That requires a simple exercise in calculus .
 
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Nidum said:
Part (a) and (b) are about current flowing from an electrode at a higher potential to an electrode at a lower potential via a resistance . No different in principle to connecting a resistance across the terminals of a battery .

The electrodes in this problem just happen to be in the form of shells .

The only difficulty in finding the current flowing between the shells is in working out what the effective resistance of the weekly conducting material between the shells is . That requires a simple exercise in calculus .
I solved the part a and b. I want to know that in part c , whether the current flows from one shell to another or the current flows from both shells to the sea.
Pushoam said:
So, in the part c, it is assumed that each shell has the same charge distribution and from each shell the charge will flow into the sea.
Since, the total charge flowing into the medium is twice the charge flowing from each shell, the current into the sea = 2 I = 2πσVa.
Is it correct so far?
 
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Pushoam said:
I solved the part a and b. I want to know that in part c , whether the current flows from one shell to another or the current flows from both shells to the sea.
I believe the current flows from one shell to the other i.e. from higher potential to lower potential.
 
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cnh1995 said:
I believe the current flows from one shell to the other i.e. from higher potential to lower potential.
Yes, I missed it.
Pushoam said:
Since, the total charge flowing into the medium is twice the charge flowing from each shell, the current into the sea = 2 I = 2πσVa.
The above is wrong.
Let's say that the left one has the potential -V/2 and the right one has the potential V/2 wrt a certain point between the two spheres.
Since the two spheres are kept far apart, the charges flow from the right sphere into the sea and from the sea into the left sphere.
The magnitude of the current is given by I = 4πσ(V/2)a = 2πσVa
 
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cnh1995 said:
I believe the current flows from one shell to the other i.e. from higher potential to lower potential.
Yes, I missed it.
Pushoam said:
Since, the total charge flowing into the medium is twice the charge flowing from each shell, the current into the sea = 2 I = 2πσVa.
The above is wrong.
Let's say that the left one has the potential -V/2 and the right one has the potential V/2 wrt a certain point between the two spheres.
Since the two spheres are kept far apart, the charges flow from the right sphere into the sea and from the sea into the left sphere.
The magnitude of the current is given by I = 4πσ(V/2)a = 2πσVa
 
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Pushoam said:
I = 4πσV/(1/a - 1/b)
Pushoam said:
2πσVa.
How did 1/a turn into a?
 
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haruspex said:
How did 1/a turn into a?
I = 4πσV/(1/a - 1/b)
Taking b to be infinity,
I = 4πσV/(1/a )= ## \frac {4πσV}{(1/a )}## = 4πσVa
In part c, V→½V,
So, I →2πσVa
 
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Pushoam said:
I = 4πσV/(1/a - 1/b)
Taking b to be infinity,
I = 4πσV/(1/a )= ## \frac {4πσV}{(1/a )}## = 4πσVa
In part c, V→½V,
So, I →2πσVa
Sorry, I missed the first "/".
 
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ok
Thanks.
 

FAQ: Current due to metal spheres kept far away in the sea

How does the distance between the metal spheres and the shore affect the current?

The distance between the metal spheres and the shore can greatly affect the strength and direction of the current. The closer the spheres are to the shore, the stronger the current will be, as the water is forced to flow between the spheres and the land. On the other hand, if the spheres are kept far away in the sea, the current will be weaker due to the larger area available for the water to flow around the spheres.

What is the scientific explanation for the current caused by metal spheres in the sea?

The current caused by metal spheres in the sea is a result of the phenomenon known as "electrohydrodynamics". This occurs when an electric field is applied to a conductive fluid, such as seawater. The difference in charge between the spheres and the surrounding water creates a force that causes the water molecules to move, resulting in a current.

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