Curvature at t=0 for r(t) = 4/9(1+t)^(3/2)i + 4/9(1-t)^(3/2)j + 1/3t k

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In summary, the curvature of the vector function r(t) = (4/9)(1+t)^(3/2)i + (4/9)(1-t)^(3/2)j + (1/3)t*k at t=0 is (1/sqrt(3))*sqrt(2). The error in the calculation was not squaring the denominators when finding the time derivative.
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Homework Statement



Find the curvature of

##r(t) = \frac 4 9 (1+t)^ \frac 3 2 i + \frac 4 9 (1-t)^ \frac 3 2 j + \frac 1 3 t \hat k## at t=0

Homework Equations



K=1/|v| * |dT/dt|

The Attempt at a Solution



Found v.

##v= \frac 2 3 (1+t)^ \frac 1 2 i - \frac 2 3 (1-t)^ \frac 1 2 j + 1/3 \hat k##
|v|=1

v/|v|= <(2/3)(1+t)^(1/2), -(2/3)(1-t)^(3/2), 1/3>

##\vec T = \frac v (|v|) ##

Take derivative of T.

K(0)=1/1 * |dT/dt|

##= \sqrt( \frac 1 3 ^2 + \frac 1 3 ^2 )= \sqrt \frac 2 3 ##

The answer is ## (\sqrt 2) / 3##. Where did I go wrong?
 
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Please show your working for the time-derivative of the j term.
Did you misplace a minus sign?

Aside:
* you used the letter k for two different things: avoid. Curvature is K or \kappa
The way you wrote it, it looks like r(t) depends on the curvature.
* it can help to indicate vectors: i,j,k are unit vectors?

\vec r, \hat\imath, \hat\jmath, \hat k gets you ##\vec r, \hat\imath, \hat\jmath, \hat k##, or you can bold-face them.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Please show your working for the time-derivative of the j term.
Did you misplace a minus sign?

Aside:
* you used the letter k for two different things: avoid. Curvature is K or \kappa
The way you wrote it, it looks like r(t) depends on the curvature.
* it can help to indicate vectors: i,j,k are unit vectors?

\vec r, \hat\imath, \hat\jmath, \hat k gets you ##\vec r, \hat\imath, \hat\jmath, \hat k##, or you can bold-face them.

Ok. I tried to use capital K to denote curvature and changed the ##\hat k##

The problem was copied as is. I fixed the minus signs but since they were squared anyway, it doesn't seem to make a difference.
 
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My question is

1. was my method wrong?

2. if no to 1 then is there something obviously wrong in any part?
 
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mill said:
K(0)=1/1 * |dT/dt|

##= \sqrt( \frac 1 3 ^2 + \frac 1 3 ^2 )= \sqrt \frac 2 3 ##

The answer is ## (\sqrt 2) / 3##. Where did I go wrong?

You did not square the denominators.

K(0)=1/1 * |dT/dt|

##= \sqrt{ \left(\frac {1} {3}\right) ^2 + \left(\frac {1} {3}\right) ^2 }=\frac{ \sqrt { 2}} {3} ##

ehild
 
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ehild said:
You did not square the denominators.

K(0)=1/1 * |dT/dt|

##= \sqrt{ \left(\frac {1} {3}\right) ^2 + \left(\frac {1} {3}\right) ^2 }=\frac{ \sqrt { 2}} {3} ##

ehild

Thanks so much!
 

Related to Curvature at t=0 for r(t) = 4/9(1+t)^(3/2)i + 4/9(1-t)^(3/2)j + 1/3t k

1. What is the curvature at t=0 for the given r(t) equation?

The curvature at t=0 for the given equation is 1/3.

2. How do you calculate the curvature at a specific point for a parametric curve?

The curvature at a specific point for a parametric curve can be calculated using the formula:
K(t) = |r'(t) x r''(t)| / |r'(t)|^3, where r'(t) and r''(t) are the first and second derivatives of the curve, respectively.

3. What does the value of curvature at a point indicate?

The curvature at a point indicates the degree of bending or curvature of the curve at that point. A higher curvature value indicates a sharper bend, while a lower value indicates a smoother curve.

4. Can the curvature be negative?

Yes, the curvature can be negative. Negative curvature indicates that the curve is bending in the opposite direction compared to a positive curvature.

5. How is curvature related to the radius of curvature?

The radius of curvature is the reciprocal of the curvature at a point. This means that a higher curvature value corresponds to a smaller radius of curvature, while a lower curvature value corresponds to a larger radius of curvature.

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