D) T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 Solving Magnetism Question Homework

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In summary, the conversation discussed two small objects suspended in equilibrium, labeled 1 and 2, with mass m and charge +Q each. The strings they are suspended from have negligible mass and are insulating and electrically neutral. The conversation discussed sketching lines to illustrate the net electric field, deriving an expression for the electric potential at point A, and drawing and labeling vectors to represent the forces on object 1. It also mentioned that two equations would be needed to solve for q and the tension T in the left-hand string, and suggested using F=ma to get equations for the net horizontal and vertical forces.
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Two small objects, labeled 1 and 2 in the diagram (see link), are suspended in equilibrium from strings of length L. Each object has mass m and charge +Q. Assume that the strings have negligible mass and are insulating and electrically neutral. Express all algebraic answers in terms of m, L, Q, q , and fundamental constants.

(a) On the following diagram, sketch lines to illustrate a 2-dimensional view of the net electric field due to the two objects in the region enclosed by the dashed lines.

(b) Derive an expression for the electric potential at point A, shown in the diagram at the top of the page, which is midway between the charged objects.

(c) On the following diagram of object 1, draw and label vectors to represent the forces on the object.

(d) Using the conditions of equilibrium, write—but do not solve—two equations that could, together, be solved for q and the tension T in the left-hand string.

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Please see link for diagrams on page 7: http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/repository/ap09_frq_physics_b.pdf


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For the diagram in part (a), there are two objects with charge +Q. Therefore, the electric field lines would be directed away from one another because the objects repel, correct? Much like this: http://teacher.pas.rochester.edu/phy122/Lecture_Notes/Chapter23/Chapter2326.gif

B) Electric potential? as in V = keq/r?
V = (9.0*10^9 N*m^2/C^2)(+Q)/(Lsin[tex]\theta[/tex]) ??

C) Would forces include: tension from the string, gravity, magnetic force from particle 2?
 
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A, B and C are right.
 
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No, B is wrong; that's the potential from one of the charges. And for C it's electric, not magnetic, forces that are relevant.
 
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Avodyne said:
No, B is wrong; that's the potential from one of the charges. And for C it's electric, not magnetic, forces that are relevant.

B) So, for the potential from both charges, would I use F = ke(q1*q2)/r^2? (Edit: Oh wait... this isn't measuring potential, is it?)

C) Would you mind elaborating just a little bit? I think I understand what you're saying.
 
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If someone could please help me with B and D, I would appreciate it.
(I think I got the rest.)
 
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(B) Find the potential due to each charge separately.

(D) One of Newton's laws of motion will help here.
 
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Redbelly98 said:
(B) Find the potential due to each charge separately.

(D) One of Newton's laws of motion will help here.

B) Still thinking about what equation to use... (V = keq/r for each? Because the other equations I've come across are Coulomb's Law [electric force], E = F/q [electric field], E= ke*q/r^2, and some equations on electric flux.)

D) Oh! F = ma.
But I never applied that equation to an equilibrium problem for something like this. What I would need is two equations that I've encountered, solving one for q and one for T.. Or two equations that would cancel to produce those results?
 
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science.girl said:
B) Still thinking about what equation to use... (V = keq/r for each?
Yes, that's the one :smile:

D) Oh! F = ma.
But I never applied that equation to an equilibrium problem for something like this. What I would need is two equations that I've encountered, solving one for q and one for T.. Or two equations that would cancel to produce those results?

Yes, two equations are required.

From a freebody diagram showing all forces acting on one of the charges, you can get an equation for the net horizontal force and also an equation for the net vertical force ... that's two equations, as needed.
 
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Thanks for your help!
 

FAQ: D) T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 Solving Magnetism Question Homework

How do you solve a magnetism question using the equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2?

The equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 is used to calculate the net force experienced by a charged particle in a magnetic field. This equation takes into account the tension forces (T1 and T2) and the gravitational (m1g and m2g) and electric (qE1 and qE2) forces acting on the particle. To solve a magnetism question using this equation, you need to first identify the values of T1, T2, m1, m2, q, E1, and E2 from the given information and plug them into the equation. Then, you can solve for the unknown variable.

What do the variables in the equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 represent?

The variables in the equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 represent different physical quantities. T1 and T2 represent the tension forces acting on a charged particle, m1 and m2 represent the masses of the particle and the object it is attached to, q represents the charge of the particle, and E1 and E2 represent the electric field strengths at the positions of the particle and the object, respectively.

When is the equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 used?

The equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 is used to calculate the net force on a charged particle in a magnetic field. It is commonly used in physics problems involving charged particles moving in a magnetic field, such as in the case of a particle suspended by two strings in a uniform magnetic field.

How does the equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 relate to Newton's laws of motion?

This equation is derived from Newton's second law of motion, which states that the net force applied to an object is equal to its mass multiplied by its acceleration. In this case, the acceleration is caused by the electric and gravitational forces acting on the charged particle in the magnetic field. By using this equation, we can determine the net force acting on the particle and its resulting acceleration.

Are there any limitations to using the equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2?

The equation T1 - T2 = m1g + qE1 = m2g - qE2 is a simplified version of the more complex equation used to calculate the net force on a charged particle in a magnetic field. It makes some assumptions, such as the strings being massless and the charged particle having negligible mass. It also assumes that the magnetic field is uniform and that the electric field is constant. These limitations may affect the accuracy of the calculated net force in some cases.

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